>> WELCOME TO THE LINE.
A HISTORIC NUMBER OF NATIVE AMERICAN WOMEN ARE RUNNING FOR
ELECTIVE OFFICE AROUND THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING HERE IN NEW
MEXICO.
AND A 62ND CAMPAIGN AD IS AT THE CENTER OF AN UNUSUAL
LAWSUIT THAT IS PLAYING OUT IN TORRANCE COUNTY COURTS.
THESE ARE JUST TWO POLITICAL STORIES HITTING THE NEWS THIS
WEEK AND HERE TO TALK ABOUT THESE TOPICS AND OTHER
STORIES, I HAVE WITH ME LINE OPINION PANELISTS, LAURA
SANCHEZ-RIVET, SHE'S AN ATTORNEY AT CUDDY MCCARTHY,
LLP.
ANDY LYMAN IS HERE, A REPORTER FOR NM POLITICAL REPORTS,
MAJORITY WHIP DANIEL FOLEY IS WITH US AND MAR HUDETZ, A
REPORTER FOR THE ASSOCIATED PRESS.
LAURA, STARTING WITH YOU, THE TIMES ARTICLE OUT A FEW DAYS
AGO, NOT YET BEEN A NATIVE AMERICAN CONGRESSWOMAN AND
THERE ARE AT LEAST FOUR INDIGENOUS WOMEN RUNNING FOR
CONGRESS THIS YEAR, A LOT OF OTHER SEATS, DEB HOLLAND
RUNNING IN NEW MEXICO'S FIRST DISTRICT FEATURED PROMINENTLY
IN THE ARTICLE.
YOUR SENSE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE.
THERE IS CLEARLY A RISE OF NATIVE WOMEN COMING INTO
POLITICS.
WHAT HAS BEEN THE BEGINNING OF THIS TO YOU?
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
>> I THINK IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
I THINK THERE HAS BEEN LEADERSHIP EFFORTS IN NATIVE
CIRCLES FOR A WHILE NOW AND WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE AT THE
STATE LEGISLATIVE LEVELS, IN DIFFERENT STATES, AND HERE IN
NEW MEXICO IS THE SAME.
WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF FEMALE LEGISLATORS BEEN ELECTED ON
BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE AND SO I THINK THAT YOU SEE THAT SORT
OF PROGRESSING AND I THINK THAT ALONG WITH SOME OF THE
ANTITRUST SENTIMENT, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO A CERTAIN
EXTENT HAS PROBABLY INSPIRED SOME OF THE WOMEN THAT ARE NOW
RUNNING.
CERTAINLY, I THINK DEB HOLLAND HAS THAT KIND OF MESSAGE.
YOU KNOW, SHE WAS A PREVIOUS STATE PARTY CHAIR SO THAT GAVE
HER A PLATFORM, GAVE HER AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF GET HER
NAME OUT THERE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, BUT I DO THINK THERE
IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PREPRIMARY PROCESS, BECAUSE
THAT IS A LOT OF THE RANK AND FILE DEMOCRATS, THE REAL
ACTIVISTS AND PEOPLE IN THE ACTUAL PRIMARY, THE VOTERS.
I AM NOT SURE YET, I MEAN, POLLS ARE WHAT THEY ARE.
I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT ANY, BUT I WOULD EXPECT THERE IS PROBABLY
STILL A GAP IN TERMS OF HER NAME ID FROM YOUR AVERAGE
VOTER BUT WE HAVE SOME TIME FOR HER TO INCREASE.
>> GOOD FOUNDATION TO BUILD ON.
INTERESTINGLY, THERE HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF PUSH BACK,
SOME FOLKS SAY, DESPITE HER EXPERIENCE RUNNING PARTY
MATTERS, THERE IS NOT A WHOLE LOT OF ELECTED OFFICE
EXPERIENCE BEHIND HER.
THAT HAS NEVER STOPPED ANYBODY BEFORE FROM RUNNING FOR
CONGRESS.
SHOULD IT BE AN ISSUE FOR HER OR ARE PEOPLE JUST SAYING SHE
IS HIDING BEHIND HER ETHNICITY.
SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
YOU KNOW WHAT I AM GETTING AT.
IT SHOULDN'T MATTER.
>> IT IS UP TO THE VOTERS AT THE END OF THE DAY.
YEAH AND THE PRESS WILL COVER EVERY END OF IT, BUT, VOTERS
WILL DECIDE, AND SHE, I THINK, THERE IS A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POLLS SHOW BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN
A TON OF POLLING YET.
HER FUND RAISING IS TOWARDS THE TOP OF THE PAC AND IT IS A
LARGE PAC IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.
AND SO, I THINK THAT THE THINGS SHOW THERE IS SOME
ENTHUSIASM BEHIND HER CANDIDACY BUT THIS RACE IS
JUST NOW STARTING TO COME TO THE FOREFRONT, YOU KNOW, LIKE,
I THINK, WE ARE STARTING TO SEE A PIVOT TOWARD OUR
ATTENTION TOWARDS THE PRIMARIES.
SO, THIS IS ONE, I THINK, WE'LL REALLY START TO GET SOME
ANSWERS.
>> INTERESTINGLY, I MENTIONED ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN THIS NEW
YORK TIMES ARTICLE, 31 NATIVE WOMEN ARE RUNNING FOR
LEGISLATIVE SEATS.
THERE IS GOVERNOR'S OFFICES BEING RUN FOR, BUT A GOOD
NUMBER ARE ALSO ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE, NOT JUST
THE ME TOO MOVEMENT OR LEFT LEANING FOLKS.
IS THAT A GOOD SIGN FOR YOU THAT THERE IS SPECTRUMS, SO TO
SPEAK?
>> IN NEW MEXICO, FOR QUITE A WHILE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE
BIGGEST SUPPORTERS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND
REPUBLICAN ISSUES HAVE BEEN NATIVE AMERICANS.
I THINK THIS IS A HUGE RACE IN NEW MEXICO, BECAUSE IF A
NATIVE AMERICAN CAN GET ELECTED ON THE DEMOCRAT SIDE
TO THE CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL, I THINK IT CAN REALLY THROW
THINGS IN DISARRAY IN NEW MEXICO WHEN IT COMES TO FUND
RAISING AND WORKING WITH NATIVE AMERICANS WHO HAVE BEEN
KIND OF TOWARDS THE FOREFRONT OF RAISING MONEY AND HELPING
GET OUT THE VOTE AND DO STUFF AND HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL
WITH THE REPUBLICANS.
>> WHAT WOULD BE THE TURBULENCE IN YOUR MIND?
>> I THINK IF YOU HAD A CONGRESSIONAL NATIVE AMERICAN
FROM NEW MEXICO, I THINK MONEY WOULD ALL BUT DRY UP TO THE
REPUBLICAN SIDE OF NEW MEXICO.
THAT SUPPORT WOULD PREDOMINANTLY GO TO WHERE THE
LEADER IS ASKING IT TO GO AND I THINK THAT COULD BE A HUGE
BLOW FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND FOR RAISING MONEY AND
UTILIZING THAT MONEY TO GET OUT THE VOTE.
I AM SURPRISED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT TALKING AS WELL
ABOUT, WE HAVE A U.S. SENATOR WHO CLAIMS TO BE NATIVE
AMERICAN WHO IS NOT.
IT IS GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS
WHEN FOLKS ARE GETTING TO CONGRESS AND GETTING IN THERE
AND YOU HAVE ELIZABETH WARREN THAT SAYS, I AM THIS
PERCENTAGE NATIVE AMERICAN AND IT TURNS OUT NOW EVERYBODY IS
TELLING HER, IT IS NOT TRUE, AND YOU SHOULDN'T BE SAYING
THAT.
BUT I AM NOT SURPRISED THAT THERE IS A PUSH.
I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT THE PIPELINE ISSUE THAT HAS GONE
ON, NATIONAL ATTENTION, NATIVE AMERICAN ISSUES, GLOBAL
ATTENTION TO THEM, HAVE FAR BEEN IGNORED ACROSS THE
COUNTRY AND NATIVE AMERICAN ISSUES HAVE BEEN -- SOME OF
THEM WE TALKED ABOUT IN PLACES LIKE NEW MEXICO AND PLACES
WHERE YOU HAVE A BIG DOMINANT NATIVE AMERICAN CULTURE AND
MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHEN USUALLY IT SEEMS TO BE, THEY HAVE
SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY ELSE WANTS, RIGHT, WHEN THEY HAVE
OIL AND GAS, OR THEY HAVE LAND THAT PEOPLE WANT, OTHERWISE IT
IS JUST KIND OF NOT SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE FOREFRONT BUT
WITH THE PIPELINE ISSUE THAT IT REALLY ELEVATED A LOT OF
THOSE FOLKS TO THE FOREFRONT AND A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES TO
THE FOREFRONT AND MADE NATIONAL ISSUES.
>> LET ME POSIT THIS TO YOU.
MY LAST INDICATION WAS THE AMOUNT OF NATIVE AMERICANS OR
NAVAJO FOLKS SPECIFICALLY LIVING OFF THE RESERVATION BUT
LIVING HERE IN BERNALILLO COUNTY WAS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT
OF FOLKS AND I HAVE TO IMAGINE THAT WOULD BE A VERY APPEALING
THING TO HAVE SOMEBODY AS REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE FIRST
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR INTEREST,
BASICALLY, IN A WAY NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE FOR NATIVE
AMERICAN FOLKS LIVING IN THE URBAN PART OF OUR STATE.
WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT?
INTERESTING WRINKLE.
>> I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY TRUE.
I THINK THERE IS PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD NOT
BE REPRESENTED OTHERWISE IF THEY WERE LIVING NOT IN THE
METROPOLITAN AREA AND NOW THEY SEE SOMEBODY WHO THEY CAN
RELATE TO, OR HOPEFULLY, THEY CAN RELATE TO THE
CONSTITUENTS, SO, YEAH, I THINK --
>> INFLUENCE WITH THE BIA, INFLUENCE WITH OTHER ISSUES
ABOUT HEALTHCARE, IT COULD BE AN ENORMOUS THING WHEN YOU
REALLY THINK ABOUT IT.
>> YEAH.
>> MARY MENTIONED THE RACE AS IT STANDS NOW IN THE FIRST
CONGRESSIONAL RACE, IT IS A TOUGH ONE.
THERE IS A LOT OF QUALIFIED WOMEN, NOT EVEN JOKING ABOUT
IT, THAT COULD BE REALLY DIFFICULT RACE FOR DEB
HOLLAND.
HOW DO YOU SEE THE RACE SHAPING UP, TALKING ABOUT THE
FIRST CONGRESSIONAL RACE?
BROADEN IT OUT.
>> THERE IS SIX CANDIDATES ON THE DEMOCRAT SIDE AND ONE ON
THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.
AND, ON THE DEMOCRAT SIDE, THEY JUST -- WE JUST HAD
PREPRIMARY CONVENTION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND THE TWO WOMEN
THAT WERE RUNNING FOR THAT SEAT DEB HOLLAND AND
ANTOINETTE SEDILLO LOPEZ WERE FAR AND AWAY THE FRONT
RUNNERS, REALLY, ESPECIALLY DEB TOOK 35% OF THE VOTE AT
THE PREPRIMARY CONVENTION IN THAT DISTRICT.
IN A SIX-WAY RACE THAT IS IKE LANDSLIDE.
ANTOINETTE TOOK 25%, A LARGE AMOUNT.
THE REST OF THEM DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THE 20% THRESHOLD.
THEY HAD TO GO BACK TO VOTERS AND GET MORE SIGNATURES.
THE REST OF THE PAC HAS -- THERE IS VARYING DEGREES OF
NAME ID.
PAT DAVIS, A CURRENT CITY COUNCILMAN, HE HAS SOME
POSITIVES BUT ALSO NEGATIVES WITH REGARD TO HIS VOTE AND
HIS POSITION WITH THE ARTS PROJECT.
ANOTHER ONE IS DAMON MARTINEZ WHO HAS NAME ID AS FORMER U.S.
ATTORNEY FOR THIS DISTRICT, FOR NEW MEXICO.
AND THEN THERE IS A COUPLE OTHERS THAT ARE IN THE MIX
THAT HAVE MUCH LESS NAME ID, THAT I THINK WILL
HAVE A TOUGHER GO OF IT.
SO, WE'RE ROUGHLY TWO-AND-A-HALF MONTHS AWAY
FROM THE PRIMARY.
WE ARE REALLY GOING TO SEE, I THINK, A LOT OF INCREASED
MEDIA ATTENTION AT THIS POINT, PAID MEDIA IN PARTICULAR, AND
THOSE THAT HAVE RAISED MONEY, I THINK WILL START TO GET
HIGHER NAME ID, BUT, AGAIN, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY POLLS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A LOT OF POLLING DONE.
IF THERE HAS, THEY HAVEN'T SHARED THEM PUBLICLY.
THAT MAY MEAN WHOEVER DID THE POLL ISN'T HAPPY WITH THE
RESULTS.
BUT I THINK SHE HAS GOT OPPORTUNITY FOR IT.
SHE DEFINITELY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET NAME ID UP
THERE BUT HAS TO SHOW THE POLICY --
>> ANOTHER TOPIC UP TOP WHERE ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL ARTICLE
THIS WEEK DETAILS THE UNUSUAL LEGAL DISPUTE OVER A 60 SECOND
RADIO AD INVOLVING TWO CANDIDATES NOT EVEN RUNNING
FOR THE SAME OFFICE.
THAT CASE WAS PLAYING OUT THIS MONTH IN COURT.
YOU WROTE ABOUT THIS LAWSUIT WHEN FIRST FILED THIS SUMMER.
GIVE US BACKGROUND ON WHAT IS GOING ON AND THE PLAYERS
INVOLVED.
>> YEAH.
SO WHEN IT WAS FIRST FILED, WELL, IT IS FILED BY CURRENT
LAND COMMISSIONER AUBREY DUNN AGAINST THE CANDIDATE FOR LAND
COMMISSIONER, AND WHEN IT WAS FILED AUBREY DUNN HAD NOT
ANNOUNCED WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO.
SO IT WAS IS HE GOING TO RUN, ESPECIALLY WHEN HE FILED THE
LAWSUIT, THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS, IS HE TRYING TO
DEFEND HIS SPOT HERE, BUT ULTIMATELY IT CAME OVER SOME
RADIO ADS FROM THE CANDIDATE, GARRETT VENEKLASEN WHO IMPLIED
THAT AUBREY DUNN WAS -- DID SOME SORT OF MOVE TO SET
HIMSELF UP FINANCIALLY WITH A POWER LINE THROUGH A RANCH
THAT HE OWNS.
THAT IS THE BACKGROUND OF IT.
>> OSTENSIBLY THE DUNNS HAD BOUGHT THE RANCH AND THE
ACCUSATION IS THEY BOUGHT IT KNOWING THAT THIS POWER LINE
WOULD GO THROUGH IT AND HE STOOD TO GAIN FINANCIALLY FROM
IT AND DUNNS ARE DENYING EVERYTHING.
IT IS INTERESTING HOW THIS DEFAMATION SUIT THOUGH.
DEFAMATION IS A TOUGH THING TO DEFEND OR PROVE, I SHOULD SAY,
AND THE JUDGE INVOLVED HAS SAID THE SAME THING, HE SAID,
YOU KNOW, THERE IS A THRESHOLD HAS TO BE MET.
>> IT GOES BACK TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND THEN ESPECIALLY
POLITICAL SPEECH, POLITICAL ADS ARE PRETTY WELL COVERED
UNDER THAT.
I THINK THE RADIO AD IS REALLY CAREFUL TO WORD THINGS AND
IMPLY THINGS, IF YOU GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THE WAY THE AD
SAYS THING, I THINK AT ONE POINT GARRETT VENEKLASEN SAYS,
COINCIDENCE, NAH.
SO HE DOES KIND OF THROW SOME ACCUSATIONS BUT NOT SUPER
DIRECTLY.
>> AND THE COURT HEARING, OF COURSE, NOT OF COURSE, BUT HE
SAID, I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT HIM DIRECTLY, I WAS TALKING
ABOUT ALL POLITICIANS HAVE A WAY TO GREASE THEMSELVES.
THESE KIND OF RACES DON'T GET THIS HOT.
WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THIS TO; THE PERSONALITIES INVOLVED?
>> THE LAND USE RACE HAS GOTTEN PRETTY HOT LAST FEW
CYCLES.
BACK IN THE 80'S AND EARLY 90'S IT WAS JUST, SO,
SOMETIMES YOU COULDN'T EVEN FIND A CANDIDATE TO RUN FOR
IT.
ONCE PAT LYONS WON IT AND IT WAS ONE OF THE FEW SEATS THAT
REPUBLICANS COULD WIN STATE-WIDE, IT GOT A LOT OF
ATTENTION FROM REPUBLICANS AND THERE IS A PUSH TO KEEP THAT
SEAT.
IT HAS ALSO BEEN A REAL PUSH BY BOTH PARTIES, BECAUSE IT
MEANS SOMETHING WHEN YOU START TO GO AFTER THE PERMANENT FUND
TO HAVE THE STATE LAND COMMISSION COME IN AND SAY,
THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING, THIS IS WHAT THE FORECASTS
ARE.
SO MUCH OF THAT MONEY COMES -- I AM NOT SURPRISED THIS HAS
GOTTEN TO WHERE IT HAS BEEN, I MEAN, YOU LOOK -- I THINK THAT
AUBREY DUNN IS RUNNING FOR THE U.S. SENATE, YOU KNOW, I THINK
HE IS LIVING BY THE ADAGE THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BAD
MEDIA, JUST SPELL YOUR NAME RIGHT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE
GETTING OUT THERE AND TAKING THIS ON IS NOT A SURPRISE, I
MEAN, HIS SON IS DEFENDING AND HIS SON IS HIS OWN ATTORNEY.
HIS SON IS RUNNING FOR OFFICE AS WELL.
SO, I THINK THAT THERE IS A GOOD PUSH BY THE LIBERTARIANS
TO SAY, LOOK, THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET OUT
THERE.
I DO THINK IT IS INTERESTING THAT IT SORT OF, YOU KNOW, IT
KIND OF FLIES IN THE FACE OF LIBERTARIAN AND LESS
GOVERNMENT THAT ONE OF THE LEADING GUYS IS TALKING ABOUT,
YOU KNOW, SQUASHING SOMEONE'S ABILITY TO SAY SOMETHING.
AT THE END, WHEN YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, THE ABILITY
TO PROVE DEFAMATION, IS ALMOST UNATTAINABLE.
IT LITERALLY IS ALMOST UNATTAINABLE.
>> PROOF OF MALICE, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW WHAT THE JUDGE WAS
SAYING, LOOK, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE BIGGER ISSUES, ONE OF THEM
BEING FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND SPEECH ISSUES.
WHAT WAS YOUR SENSE OF THAT WHERE THE JUDGE WAS COMING
FROM HERE?
>> YEAH, THE JUDGE, I THINK WAS CERTAINLY UNDERSCORING THE
LAW AND HISTORY AND WHAT DAN SAID.
THE FIRST AMENDMENT GIVES THE PRESS OR PEOPLE, THE PUBLIC IN
GENERAL, JUST LIKE US, UNBELIEVABLE WIDE LATITUDE TO
SAY AND TO CRITICIZE AND TO POKE AND TO SEE, YOU KNOW,
THIS IS PART OF OUR DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT -- EVEN THAT SAID, I MEAN, IT IS UP TO
THE VOTERS TO DECIDE, LIKE, THEY WANT WHAT SORT OF
CAMPAIGN, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE, WHAT NOT.
BUT THERE IS JUST INCREDIBLE FREEDOM AND HE WAS CITING THAT
LANDMARK LAWSUIT AS WELL.
>> THAT GOES BACK AND SET THAT PRECEDENT.
PICK UP ON THAT PROOF OF MALICE THING BY MR.
DUNN.
VERY HARD THING TO PROVE.
I AM CURIOUS, WHY HE WOULD DO THIS KNOWING THAT A THRESHOLD
WAS PROBABLY DIFFICULT TO GET TO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
IS A HARD ONE.
>> THERE IS A LOT OF REASONS WHY PEOPLE ENGAGE IN
LITIGATION.
SOMETIMES IT IS NOT ALWAYS FOR AUTHENTIC REASONS IN TERMS OF
ISSUES.
CERTAINLY WHAT DAN SAID IN TERMS OF THE NAME ID AND
GETTING THE PRESS IS A FACTOR.
THE FACTS THAT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO PAY FOR AN
OUTSIDE ATTORNEY IF YOU HAVE YOUR SON DOING IT, THAT MIGHT
BE A FACTOR.
I DON'T KNOW.
I WILL SAY THIS MUCH, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, I
CERTAINLY SUPPORT THE FIRST AMENDMENT BUT IT IS AN EXAMPLE
OF ONCE AGAIN A CANDIDATE MAKING OUTLANDISH CLAIMS AND
THE PUBLIC NOT HAVING THE ABILITY TO BACK CHECK THAT AND
THAT MAKES IT REALLY, FOR ME, FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WHEN I
HEAR THAT AD, I MEAN, I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS SUPPORTING VENEKLASEN AND
ENVIRONMENTALISTS IN GENERAL BUT THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF
ENVIRONMENTALISTS THAT WORKED ON THAT SANDIA LINE AND WORKED
HARD FOR MANY YEARS.
I DID MYSELF WHEN I WAS WITHIN RDC IN ENSURING THERE WAS A
FULL RECORD IN TERMS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL SITING THAT WENT
ALONG WITH WHERE THAT LINE WOULD GO.
AND TO SUGGEST ANY ONE RANCHER CAN DETERMINE WHAT AN ENTIRE
MULTISTATE PROCESS THAT WENT THROUGH NEPA, FEDERAL LAW, AND
HAD THOUSANDS OF COMMENTS AND PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, IT JUST
SORT OF FLIES IN THE FACE OF LIKE, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
WHAT THIS PROCESS IS. AND ALSO THE SANDIA LINE, ONE
OF THE REASONS A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTALISTS WERE
INTERESTED IN IT AS WAS SENATOR HEINRICH AND OTHERS,
IT IS SUPPOSED TO BRING RENEWABLE ENERGY FROM NEW
MEXICO TO MARKET IN ARIZONA.
AND, THAT SAME AD WHERE HE BASICALLY, ON THE ONE HAND
SAYS SOMEHOW AUBREY DUNN HAD A SAY IN WHERE THE LINE WAS
SITED, AND AT THE END SAYS, I WANT TO WORK ON BRINGING
RENEWABLE ENERGY TO NEW MEXICO, IT IS LIKE, OH MY
GOSH, DOES ANYBODY WHO ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS RENEWABLE
ENERGY LISTENS TO THAT OR -- >> IT IS A TRANSMISSION LINE
TO GET POWER OUT OF OUR STATE.
WE HAVE WANTED THIS FOR A DECADE.
>> IT HAS BEEN OVER A DECADE THAT THE LINE HAS BEEN ON THE
DRAWING BOARD.
AND, SO, IT IS VERY DISINGENUOUS FOR THE CANDIDATE
TO TAKE THIS ISSUE ON WITHOUT HAVING REAL FACTS.
>> WE'LL SEE WHAT COMES OF THIS.
GOOD REPORTING ANDY.
REALLY INTERESTING TO READ AND WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL HAVE
AN UPDATE ON REFORMS IN THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
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