Thursday, February 15, 2018

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Exceeding expectations, playing with tennis balls and Liverpool's best-kept secret is out

Steven Scragg thinks anything is possible for Liverpool in the Champions League, and a resurgent Mane will be key to how far we go.

On an evening beyond our wildest expectations, Sadio Mane finally received a well-deserved rebate on a season which has been a personally frustrating one.

That was a performance of substance.

That was a performance which answered some of the questions that the group stages left hanging in the air.

That was a performance which, to all intents and purposes, puts us back into a Champions League quarter final for the first time in nine years, and potentially on the brink of a return to the A-listers enclosure.

That was a performance which will have turned heads and a few stomachs.

Mane's Scoring.

After so much time spent in the shadows of Mohamed Salah, Roberto Firmino and even Philippe Coutinho, Mane finally got the payback all his selfless work this season has deserved.

This type of night was always going to happen eventually for Mane.

As the fabled line goes, 'form is temporary, class is permanent'.

Again, Mane worked hard for the cause, but this time he hit the jackpot.

Every player wants to be the hero, whether that's a goalkeeper with a vital save, or a defender with a crucial block, or a midfielder with a defence splitting pass, or a forward scoring the goals.

Nobody grows up wanting to be the selfless soul, constantly paving the way for others to claim the glory.

Yes, football is a team sport and players subscribe to that, but the smile is always that bit bigger when you are the one who has the final say.

We've not seen Mane smile in the way he did at Porto for quite some time.

When Firmino made it 4-0, producing that now very familiar flying, spinning kick celebration of a goal scored, in the background Mane followed suit.

This in itself felt like mojo being reborn.

While he hasn't exactly been out of form, the prospect of a resurgent Mane, a Mane back to his belligerent best, is an exciting one.

Should Mane's performance against Porto set the tone for the rest of his season, then this could be a very special run-in indeed.

There was a degree of luck involved in his first goal, which also bodes well.

When you are working hard at something, and the rewards are stubbornly refusing to fall your way, it often needs a slice of good fortune to get out of that perceived rut.

In this respect, Manes first goal of the night was perfect.

Rather than accepting one slice of luck and then returning to the roll of the hardworking support act, Mane seemed to be unlocked from the confines of a support remit he has carried for too long this season.

The quality and confidence required for his second and third goals, hinted at a lifting of a peculiar cloud which has been following him.

Mane's recent predicament has been a complex and head-scratching one.

Not quite himself, but not out of form.

This, however, was the carefree Mane who burst onto the scene for Liverpool at the Emirates on the opening day of the 2016/17 season.

30 Goals and Counting.

Salah is heading toward a 40-goal debut season.

The man is a complete phenomenon.

If he wasn't to score another goal between now and the end of the season it wouldn't detract one fibre of greatness from his achievements in his first season at Anfield.

The likelihood that Salah won't add to the 30 goals he has plundered so far is pretty low though, thankfully.

Salah leaves you wanting more, and more.

His goal in this one was scored by his inner child.

As impressive as the numbers are, it is the manner of the goals Salah scores which warms the soul.

Against Porto, Salah mopped up the spillage of James Milner's piece of brilliance in striking the post.

It was all done with that trademark impudence.

Loop the ball over the unwitting goalkeeper, and then guide it back in the opposite direction, between both the bewildered shot-stopper and the rabbit-in-the-headlights defender.

It was a goal you'd score on the school playground, with a tennis ball in lieu of a football, resulting in everyone bursting out laughing at the absurdity of the event—the wronged goalkeeper never allowed to live the experience down afterward.

Do kids still play football with tennis balls? If not, they should.

More Than One Inner Child.

There is something irresistible about the player who lets his football flow from the inner child.

We adored Luis Suarez for it, and Coutinho showed flashes of it, without looking like he fully embraced the concept.

Coutinho would produce a piece of skill from the inner child, but then remain poker faced about it.

Mane, at his best, plays from the inner child, and when he's on the crest of a wave the inner child is there for all to see.

Even more than with Salah and Mane, Firmino is the epitome of this concept.

Scorer of the fourth goal, Firmino embraces every Liverpool goal like he scored it himself.

There is no bigger inner child at the club than Firmino.

He is simply glorious.

For a long time, Firmino had conspired to be Liverpool's best-kept secret.

This Is Anfields Sachin Nakrani once compared him to that cool indie band that a few of us were waiting for everyone else to catch on to.

We are blessed that have these players at the same point in time.

We no longer need to look to one superhero.

Imagine: Next season, Naby Keita will be a part of this heady concoction.

Everyone Was Great in This One.

On a night when you win 5-0 away from home in the first leg of a classic European tie, nobody is going to be castigated.

Nobody needed castigating anyway.

It really was a performance which will leave other clubs shifting uncomfortably in their seats at the prospect of facing us.

Calm goalkeeping from Loris Karius, assured defending from Virgil van Dijk and Dejan Lovren, fine usefulness from Trent Alexander-Arnold and Andrew Robertson, midfield dominance from Milner, Jordan Henderson and Georginio Wijnaldum.

There's More to Come.

Our Champions League campaign will stretch into April.

We will get to see Anfield at its most resplendent.

A European evening against stellar opponents, hopefully Barcelona, which kicks off in the daylight and ends under the lights, with our beaten Catalan friends being sent home to think about what they've done.

Liverpool FC was born for this type of thing.

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Where there is communication There is deconstruction

Nobody knows anymore what happiness is And who already knows only lives in nostalgia

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Royal (or Real) Republic Corsairs of the Islands

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Centuries of Cellulose: Lessons from the Molecular Analysis of Cellulose in Aged Paper Collections - Duration: 56:47.

>> From the Library of Congress in Washington, D.C.

>> Fenella France: Good afternoon, everyone.

I just want to welcome you to today's Topics

in Preservation series.

I'm the chief-- name would be helpful.

Fenella France, chief of the Preservation,

Research, and Testing Division.

And we're delighted today-- have today here, Dr. Andrew Davis,

who is one of our chemists here in the Preservation, Research,

and Testing Division, talking about Centuries of Cellulose:

Lessons Learned from the Molecular Analysis of Cellulose

in Aged Paper Collections.

And Andrew has become a very critical part

of our preservation team, and we're really delighted.

So Andrew has a background, his Ph.D. was in polymer science

and engineering from the University

of Massachusetts, Amherst in 2014.

From there, he worked at 3M developing adhesive chemistry

and photographic processes and came to the library in 2016.

And without further ado, I will pass over to Andrew.

[ Applause ]

>> Andrew Davis: Great.

Thanks, Fenella.

So I will be talking today a little bit about cellulose

and paper materials as they age.

And so what I mean by aging-- I'll jump right into it--

is, as far as we're concerned here,

that means paper durability and paper permanence.

How does paper behave and stay preserved

over a long period of time?

And when we're looking at it as preservationists

and conservators, a lot of times we can judge it based on what I

like to call the "eyeball test."

Most of the time, you can look at an object, you can look

at some paper, and say what is bad, what is good.

Is this in bad shape?

Do we need to do something with this object, with this material?

But that doesn't always pass muster.

Sometimes you need quantitative measurements.

And there are a number of ways over the years

that people have taken quantitative assessments

of paper-based materials.

These range from chemical assessments, like pH

or inductively coupled plasma, or XRF, which are familiar

to various folks in this room

for analyzing elemental compositions

or metallic components that are in paper materials.

There's spot testing.

Again, identifying specific elemental

or chemical components in paper.

When the eyeball test doesn't work

or you need something a little more specific,

you can do optical testing

and then you can also do physical testing,

things like fold or tensile measurements

that give you a quantitative assessment of material.

But what none of these techniques address is the

underlying fundamental building block

of paper itself, and that's cellulose.

And if anyone in here remembers and really fantastic "Powers

of Ten" video where it zooms in and out

of different length scale scales.

You can see what materials or at what scales.

Cellulose really is the fundamental building block,

about as small as you can get, when you start

from the raw materials, starting from it trees

or wood-based materials or rag-based materials,

all the way down past the cellular structure,

past cell walls, past fibrils, past fibers, down to cellulose.

And what cellulose looks like is a string

of sugar molecules linked together--

that's what this N represents--

over and over and over and over again,

to make a very long chain polymer.

And there's actually even more complicated structure there,

where you have hydrogen bonding, interacting both

within a cellulose chain and between cellulose chains.

But it really is the fundamental building material building block

that makes up paper.

And when we talk about cellulose degradation,

mostly what we're talking

about is cellulose significant scission

or breakage of cellulose chains.

And the two main mechanisms that this can happen by--

and if you hold with me for just this slide,

this is about as deep into the organic chemistry as I get.

[laughter] You've got acid hydrolysis where you can break,

usually that oxygen linkage there,

and you'll take one long polymer chain of cellulose

and you'll split that up into two smaller ones.

You can also have oxidation,

where the rings often will open up.

And then these will expose some functional groups that can go

on to perform additional chemistry often

in a degradative nature, either color changes or again,

chain scissions, and start breaking down the chains.

And so when you talk about quantifying this,

how do you quantify what's happening

to the cellulose molecules that make up paper?

There's a method that's very popular in polymer science,

and that's called size exclusion chromatography.

And like any chromatography,

it separates chemical components based on some criteria.

And in this case, it separates polymeric molecules,

large scale molecules, based on their size.

And it does this by taking some samples with both large

and small chain cellulose, flows them through a porous media

that physically separates them by size,

and so the larger molecules will come out at a different time

than the smaller molecules.

You can detect them and then come

up with a quantitative measurement

of how much small chain cellulose there is relative

to large chain cellulose that you started with in your sample.

And we refer to this entire series as the distribution.

What's the distribution of cellulose sizes in your sample?

And so I'll refer to this as the distribution.

And that distribution can be captured

by a single quantitative simplification called the

molecular weight.

And I can spend an entire day talking

about how you make that's simplistic quantification.

There are different measurements

and points along this distribution you can use.

But the idea is it's one simple identifier

for what this distribution looks like.

You may be more familiar with that-- whoops--

in terms of the degree of polymerization.

And that's just another way of referring

to the molecular weight.

And so if I say "molecular weight," or if I say "degree

of polymerization," degree of polymerization just adjusts

for the size of those sugar repeat units.

But know that I mean the same thing.

And so if you're more comfortable thinking about one

or the other, you can swap those in your mind.

They are both a simplification

of that more complicated distribution.

And I'll be showing you examples of both.

I'm not going to get too deep into preparing samples

for size exclusion chromatography.

I will say that we are using a direct dissolution method.

We're taking the cellulose,

we're not doing any chemical modifications

to it from the paper.

We are directly dissolving it in a solvent system.

And so for using solvents in size exclusion chromatography,

that's been used for decades in polymer science

with synthetic polymers and plastics, like styrene or PET.

But for cellulose, it's really just been pinned

down in the last decade or so how to do this

through a direct dissolution method.

And that's because it's a tremendously complicated solvent

and solute system.

Ann Chapatist [phonetic spelling] has done some

excellent work reviewing what goes

into these different systems that you can use

to dissolve cellulose.

And so if you want to know more,

I highly recommend looking up her work.

But it does take a long time and it's fraught with complications.

But it can be done, and the method we're using is one

of the benchmark methods that is used with cellulose scientists.

It's something we use just because it's comparative

to other cellulose researchers in the field.

And so why size exclusion chromatography?

Like I said, it's a direct measurement

of the fundamental building block in your paper materials.

And it's a cornerstone of polymer science that the size

of a polymer is directly related to material degradation.

As the material degrades,

the polymer chains will start breaking.

You can measure that.

As the chains start breaking, that's intimately related

to material properties; how strong it is, how durable it is.

It also reveals minor changes that are perhaps undetectable

or only very subtly detectable by physical measurements.

And to give you an example of that, I'll use something

that we use in the lab--

that we've used size exclusion chromatography in the lab for,

a pretty big team effort that's been ongoing for a number

of years before I came here even,

on iron gall ink treatments, and this is both

in preservation research and with conservation.

A number of folks I can see

in the room who've been working on this project.

An iron gall ink is a corrosive, but historically important ink.

And you can see iron gall ink induced degradation on objects

from the library collection, as well as on lab prepared samples

from lab prepared iron gall ink.

And you can see how corrosive it is.

This is an aged paper on the right there.

And you can see that the paper tends to break

and fracture right along ink lines.

We know this.

We know this is a problem.

But to me, it seemed like size exclusion chromatography would

be interesting to see what has happening

to the cellulose molecules in the area that has been inked.

That's just a little bit of the chemistry

of how iron undergoes Fenton reactions.

Both of the bad actors I talked about before,

acid and oxidative species, are involved

with a redox reaction of iron.

So really there's a perfect storm in iron gall ink

for cellulose degradation.

And what I want to see is whether we can track any changes

of treatments that this team has been working on developing

to see what's going on at the molecular level of cellulose.

And so this is that lab prepared sample

with lab prepared iron gall ink,

and these are two control samples, starting with unaged,

so just right after inking.

And you can see this is the molecular weight distribution

from size exclusion chromatography.

And you can see that there's high molecular weight species,

up to about a million grams per mol,

is the predominant size of cellulose there.

And you have some smaller components, as well.

And you have some smaller components, as well.

And this is just in that heavily inked region,

the underlying paper.

And it gives you a degree of polymerization

of about 2800 of the cellulose.

After artificial aging, so this is high heat, high humidity,

in an oven for 28 days, you can see that all

of those high molecular weight cellulose molecules are

almost gone.

There's very little left.

They've all broken down into much smaller cellulose chains,

about 10,000 molecular weight.

Degree of polymerization reduced about ten-fold, about 150.

And so these are papers without any treatment on them.

And the question is, what are some

of the conservation treatments we could apply?

What do they do over time?

How do they help preserve, if they help preserve,

the cellulose and molecular structure.

And so I'm not going to get too deep into the details here.

This is something we're hoping to publish and get out there,

and I don't want to give away the punchline to any of this.

So I'll talk just very broadly about different treatments.

And so, for example, all the treatments I'll show are

after aging.

And I'm going to compare them to these two controls.

So all of these have been aged in an oven

after the treatments have been applied.

And you can see this first treatment

in red really doesn't seem to do much of anything.

And size exclusion chromatography can tell

you that.

You can see both the degree of polymerization is about the same

and the distribution shape itself,

the size of all the molecules in that sample, are about the same.

They look almost identical to that condition

without any treatment at all.

And if you look at two additional treatments, again,

both after aging, but these start to look much more

like pristine samples.

And so by eye, it might be hard to distinguish these two.

They both look about the same in the paper material itself

after aging, but these distributions and this degree

of polymerization measurement shows you that one

of them is actually slightly

and subtly better than the other one.

It helps preserve these high molecular weight components

in the cellulose.

You still have these million molecular weight species

that match up to if you had unaged.

So we can stick it in an oven, apply heat and humidity,

and we know that this treatment is perhaps better than this one.

And we're trying to dig a little bit into why that might be.

But that's just an example to start getting you thinking,

maybe perhaps get used to looking

at what this data might look like.

And if you noticed on that Y size exclusion chromatography

slide I showed, I talked about micro-sampling.

And a couple of the popular methods that I talked

about for quantifying paper condition take

up a lot of paper.

And so that's a scale schematic representation

of an 8 1/2 by 11 piece of paper.

And to do a physical condition test, a fold endurance test,

example, needs about half of an 8 1/2 by 11.

Similarly, a pH extraction needs

about the same amount of material.

And so it's fine on lab scale papers,

but if this is something you want to do

to a collections object, that's just not acceptable.

Size exclusion chromatography can use dozens

of micrograms of material, right?

So this is a cute little paper biopsy machine.

It's just a kind of tiny hole punch that punches out samples

that are about one millimeter in diameter.

And those can perhaps be taken from collections objects,

from blank pages in a back of a book, from detritus

that has been shorn off of a very fragile material,

and that's perhaps a little more acceptable.

And so the question is, how can we apply this

to actual collections items or perhaps books?

And so I wanted to start using this on a collection of books,

and the books that immediately came

to mind were the Barrow Collection.

And William Barrow may be a familiar name to some

of the folks in this room.

He was a paper chemist, did a lot of work in the 50s and 60s

on naturally aged paper chemistry and what's going on.

And here, William Barrow is working on a fold tester.

There's Cindy Ryan from our research group doing her best

William Barrow impression.

And if you haven't seen a fold tester, I'm a big fan of them.

They're very visceral machines.

You get a real sense of what's going

on what a fold tester is operating.

And what William Barrow was trying to do was he was trying

to connect physical properties to chemical properties

in naturally aged books.

So taking a naturally aged collection

and seeing how you can connect the chemical components in paper

to the physical condition of the durability

and brittleness of that paper.

So I'm going to take a bit of a detour now, and I'm going

to step away from all of the technical science stuff

and give you a little bit of history

about William Barrow and the Barrow Labs.

Like I said, some folks may be familiar

with him, some folks may not.

And it's kind of an interesting story.

And so Barrow often times gets a lot of credit

for being the originator of research on pH

and alum-rosin sizing and its effect

on naturally aged materials.

But it built on a lot of work

that had already been going on in the field.

Kohler and Hall in Sweden

in the 20s had done perhaps the first definitive connection

between acidity and paper deterioration.

There was then a lot of work done in the 30s

at the National Bureau of Standards,

at the Government Printing Office,

in the National Archives,

looking into the fundamental science of paper degradation,

looking at whether fiber processing is more influential

than the fiber source, whether ground wood papers have a

different effect on paper longevity than rag papers,

on whether sizing and the acidity that's inherent

in sizing effects paper degradation.

William Barrow was a book binder

and a craftsman before he started looking

into the chemistry of materials.

And he started looking into the chemistry of materials

and he started working with these researchers

in the National Bureau of Standards

in the National Archives, learning chemistry

from them at that time.

And that kind of sparked his interests from just book binding

to the more fundamental chemistry of paper conservation.

And it led to his interests spanning that type of chemistry,

ranging from cellulose acetate lamination, to deacidification,

to aging of book papers, both artificial and natural,

to the manufacturing of durable papers.

And I'm not going to talk too much about it,

but it's impossible to talk about William Barrow

without talking about cellulose acetate lamination.

And so he spent a lot of time developing, refining,

and pitching the idea of cellulose acetate lamination

as he learned alongside these researchers at NBS

and the National Archives.

And this was during the 1930s, took a lot of input

from Bourden Scribner, who was the chief of the paper section

at the National Bureau of Standards,

worked with Arthur Kimberly, chief of the Division of Repair

and Preservation at the National Archives at the time.

It involved development of visits to the National Archives,

prototyping with the Mariners' Museum in Portsmouth, Virginia.

And he came up with this method

for cellulose acetate lamination, patented,

oddly enough, with all of that collaboration with just his name

on the patent in 1941.

And that's really where Barrow got his claim to fame.

And after that, he received a grant from the Council

on Library Resources to do studies on paper and book aging

in Richmond, Virginia at his labs,

and this was in the 1950s and 60s.

And William Barrow said about this,

perhaps in a quote illustrative

of the work he was undertaking there, "The task of the ester is

to find, among the hundreds of possible tests

of the characteristics of a material,

those which are really meaningful, i.e.,

those which can be shown to correlate

with actual experience in use."

And so to undertake this research,

he collected a thousand books.

These were a thousand actual books spanning

about 400 years of print dates.

So about 400 years of natural aging in this book collection.

All sorts of different compositions, whether they came

from wood pulps, whether they came from rag fibers,

different geographies, mostly from western Europe,

a lot from the United States, but obviously

that included different climates, as well.

And his goal was to start doing tests on these books

and to correlate, like I said, physical properties

with chemical properties.

And the initial tests were

on about 500 books spanning the range from 1800 to 1900.

Those eventually ballooned out by another 500 books,

going all the way back to 1500.

And those included physical tests of, you know, strength

and durability, by fold testing, like I showed you,

and tear testing, which is exactly what it sounds like.

Chemical tests started off with acidity

and rosin testing expanded out to looking at alum content

and metal carbonate content and fiber analysis, as well.

What type of fibers were in there?

How large the fiber size was.

And these are pictures, not quite as fun

as the animated pictures.

But from the written reports from William Barrow, 1950s,

showing the equipment he was using.

And if you look through these reports from the 1950s and 60s,

actually what I find a little bit more fun is they are very

1950s in their presentation.

He is showing some of the researchers from the lab here.

It wasn't just William Barrow, for example.

Here is Mrs. Virginia Roberson, both technician and secretary,

putting samples in an aging oven.

Mrs. Patricia Turner working on the fold tester.

Mrs. Emily Parr taking pH measurements.

So these are very much of the time, but kind of fun pictures

that are shown in the Barrow reports.

Shows you how many people are working in the lab here.

And the lab from William Barrow produced pages and pages of data

about pages and pages of books.

And after he collected all these data,

he started making correlations.

So for example, year of manufacture,

checking the tear strength.

How does tear strength in naturally aged books change

over time with printing?

How does pH and acidity and chemical content change

over time with printing?

And then how do you correlate those?

That's down at the bottom there.

Some of the correlations between alum content and acidity and how

that interfaces with age of production of the books.

And so the conclusions of the Barrow Lab came out

and they were summarized.

You know, the effects of acidity, the effects of alum,

the effects of fiber type.

High acidity, low pH tends to lead

to poor physical conditions.

The presence of alum is usually a bad indicator,

unless it's present alongside calcium carbonate.

Fiber type, wood pulp type papers tend to be

in worse conditions than rag type papers.

The mid-1800s onwards showed to be particularly problematic.

It was, again, the perfect storm of all

of these components coming together.

And those ended up being in--

interpreted by Barrow's suggestions

on paper manufacture, what can be done to make more durable,

more permanent papers, as well as work

on comparing artificial aging

and rigorously controlled natural aging studies.

And really, it was never explicitly concluded by Barrow,

but the conclusion here is those results really, right,

are not new conclusions.

The work that was done by the National Bureau of Standards,

by the National Archives in the 20s and 30s new

that acidity was bad, knew that alum-rosin sizing was bad.

But what this proved was that those results held

in actual naturally aged book collections.

Not just any naturally aged book collection,

a really ambitious naturally aged book collection,

a rather ungainly naturally aged book collection.

So the fact that you could take those conclusions

from test papers at NBS or government printing office

and say, we collected a thousand books from all over,

all sorts of ages, all sorts of compositions,

and these results hold, is rather impressive.

There were lots of conclusions about Barrow's work.

He is often interpreted as the originator of results on pH

and alum-rosin and wood content.

For example, Rutherford Rogers, who was the University librarian

at Yale, 1985, was talking about Barrow and said,

"Barrow startled the library world with his results."

Right? So it's not-- it's not uncommon

to see Barrow interpreted as the originator of these results,

even those some results came before him.

And his lab is not entirely innocent in this perception.

If you look at the citation records in these reports,

starting with the very first one in 1959, about a third

of them had in their technical citations,

work from the National Bureau of Standards,

work from the National Archives.

By the last report in 1967, most of them had disappeared,

less than 1 in 20 were from those sources.

They were mostly self-citations of the Barrow Lab.

And so some other folks have become critical

of that assessment.

Nicholson Baker, who is perhaps a little bit infamous

for his critique on library sciences, the total extreme

of the criticism here,

really questioning why Barrow did any invasive testing

to begin with.

He said, "If Barrow hadn't chosen to destroy

yet another page in order to perform his parlor trick,

the recipe for chicken a la Terrapin would very likely be

with us today."

[ Laughter ]

So you can find both assessments in the scholarly literature

about William Barrow, that he really had this large

influential role to play in paper science,

and that he was just duplicating others' efforts.

And so I would say that my personal opinion

of William Barrow is a little more sympathetic with that

of Barbara Higginbotham and Sally Cruz Roggia.

And a lot of this history comes from Sally Cruz Roggia.

She did some excellent work.

I highly recommend looking up her deep dive

into William Barrow's history.

Saying that, at the time that that original research was done

in the 20s and 30s, librarian-- conservation minded librarians

at the time were more interested in durability

and in-use durability, in taking a page

and making sure it's not breaking while users are

interacting with the books.

And so the reports from the National Bureau of Standards,

from the Government Printing Office, were highly technical,

highly constrained to the government.

Didn't make their way much to librarians

that did a lot of work.

For example, here's at the Enoch Pratt Free Library,

just doing mending and working to make sure

that the books could be used and were in good condition for use.

And Barbara Higginbotham

and both Sally Cruz Roggia make the argument

that Barrow is the great promoter here.

He's the one that takes these results and perhaps

by using a collection of a thousand actual books from all

over the place, a little more representative

of what is actually in libraries.

It's something that can be, you know,

connected with on a visceral level.

And so while he may not have done exactly the original

research, his results were widely influential

for a good number of reasons.

And so after William Barrow's work, the books found their way

to the library here

in Preservation Research and Testing.

And the value of these books now is entirely

in their scientific content.

They have been destructively tested.

There are very few books, going back to the 1500s,

that have had pages ripped out of them

for tear testing and fold testing.

And the fact that we can still do this adds tremendous value

to that collection.

And so those were donated to the library in the 1970s.

They've since been rehoused, sorted, and barcoded.

Now they're in PRTD Center

for the Library Analytical Scientific Samples.

They serve as kind of a small scale museum of book art.

You can take them apart, look at what's going

on with different books over different times.

But they do provide another opportunity for research.

There's been progress in material science.

There's been progress in polymer science.

Polymer science was barely a field

when Barrow started his work.

There's been improvement in analytical

and instrumental methods since the 1950s.

For example, size exclusion chromatography.

And as a study of natural aging, it's kind of interesting

that there's been another 50 years of aging.

And we'll go back to Rutherford Rogers,

that librarian from Yale University.

We'll finish out his quote that I gave you a taste of before.

"Barrow startled the library world with his research results,

which suggested that only three percent of the papers published

between 1900 and 1949 could be expected to last

for more than 50 years."

William Wilson at the National Bureau of Standards,

around the year 2000, could do the math, and said,

"It's almost the end of the century and somehow,

most of those books haven't known

that they were supposed to disappear."

[laughter] So some of the conclusions

from that data obviously need revisiting.

And so one of the tremendous efforts

that have been undertaken in PRTD is digitizing those pages

and pages and pages of data.

So there are a thousand books.

There's about 16-ish data points each.

I say "-ish," some books are missing a couple of data points.

So that gives you 16,000 data points.

And they fall in all types of categories.

There's time and chronological data,

what year they were published.

There's categorical data, what cities they were published in.

There's binary data, right?

Yes or no, simple thumbs up, thumbs down.

Is there alum, is there not alum?

And then there's numerical data, pH and fold data,

which can span any range of numbers.

And so while William Barrow had all sorts of, you know,

interesting methods and techniques and technicians

and secretaries working for him,

what he didn't have was a desktop computer.

And so now we can look at these correlations again

and the first thing you can do, once we digitized all this,

is plot out all of the raw data, the entirety of it.

And it's not as pretty as perhaps it once looked.

There's a lot of scatter.

There's a lot of outliers.

And that's not unexpected.

These are real books with unknown histories from all

over the place, and who knows where they were

at what point in time.

But it just goes to show how messy it can be.

One thing I've done is started manipulating it a little bit

to see if there's anything else you can learn.

So let's move away from the big scatter.

These are some box plots.

I know box plots probably something you haven't thought

about since high school.

Honestly, not really something I've thought

about since high school.

But they do give you a statistical snapshot by decade,

instead of Barrow's plots,

which were just median values by decade.

You pick the median value.

And it gives you nice clean plots.

This gives you some more data on what's going

on in the distributions over time.

For example, if you've got a keen eye,

and the projector's colors are behaving themselves,

you can see that the data is right skewed.

What that means is that the average value

for a decade is higher than the median value for a decade.

You've got a couple of odd, high-end outliers usually,

for each decade, that pulled data toward the right.

Most of the lower performing book.

There are more lower performing books

than there are higher performing ones,

pretty much across the board by decade.

And you can do this for any of the any of the data.

For the fold data by year, for the tear resistance,

for the chemical properties.

And so what that does and what I like doing

when I do this analysis is it takes the original data,

what Barrow was looking at-- he had this original data,

we have this original data, we start with the same numbers.

He's going just taking the median values,

making nice cleanish plots.

And then we can take it and we still get the same trend line.

You can see up to about 1700, there's a pretty even plateau

in physical properties and then it declines precipitously.

But you don't lose the data that you lose in the representation

of data using just median values.

You can also do some nice heat mapping to start looking

at combined variables over time.

So these are now three variables in one go, looking at year

and pH and how fold endurance changes

over time with both of those.

Right? The hotter values correspond

to higher fold endurance.

You can do the same with tear resistance.

Both are physical measurements.

Right? You would expect physical measurements,

the physical durability of the books,

to kind of match each other.

And you can see in some cases that's true, right?

In the 1650s to 1700s-ish, that high pHs, so non-acidic.

That's true, they both match.

But then it's very easy to reveal these odd little outliers

that I don't have answers to yet,

about why there's a couple books in here, in about 1850,

that are acidic that have really high tear resistance

but don't have corresponding fold endurance.

And so data manipulation and representations

like this are something you couldn't do in Barrow's day.

And they're something now that we can start looking at

and figuring out what's going on.

And so I'll jump back now to the technical stuff I started

with at the beginning about cellulose and size

and what's going on with cellulose size in these samples.

The Barrow data has macro-scale measurements.

What's happening at the physical hand scale of brittleness?

It has all the way down to chemical level information,

whether there's alum present, whether the--

you know, what the acidity is, which really is just a measure

of effective ion concentration.

But it's missing this intermediary scale.

It's missing what's going on at the size scale

of the cellulose molecules.

And so we come back to micro-invasive testing.

That's why this collection was so interesting to me

to use micro-testing on, is

that this is an actual book collection, it has data on it.

It's something we might be able to correlate

to actual collections objects,

and we can use now very small minimally invasive sampling

to get another data point

on this interesting book collection.

And so the first thing that I did is--

so I've got data points now on about a hundred

of these a thousand books.

Molecular weight values of the cellulose

in about a hundred of the books.

And you can check that against the original Barrow measurements

of acidity.

And you can see that above neutral,

there's a lot of scatter.

But below neutral pH, in acidic books, there's a decent,

pretty good correlation between acidity and size

of your cellulose, the molecular weight,

the DP of your cellulose.

And the first reaction on seeing this plot is, well, duh.

[laughter] Right?

As it's more acidic, your cellulose is going to break down

and you're going to have smaller,

lower molecular weight cellulose.

That's not terribly interesting.

But it is interesting that this is a real world collection

of books.

These aren't lab scale papers.

These aren't things that we've prepared

and artificially aged in the lab.

It's a real world collection of books.

It's unknown history.

We don't know if any given book in a collection sat

in grandma's attic for a hundred years.

It's unknown geography.

It may have been printed in Italy,

but did it then spend the rest of its life

in Sweden before it found its way to the collection?

We don't know what the housing was like,

we don't know the composition.

There's sizing all over the place.

And we can draw essentially a fairly universal trend line

between acidity and molecular weight

in actual book collection objects.

That's a powerful method.

And so how do they correlate to physical properties?

These are color-coded.

It may be hard to tell by decade.

And so you can see, as the books get newer, less aged,

they actually are in worse condition.

That's not a surprise to any of us.

Books from the 18-- middle to late 1800s are

in worse condition than the older ones.

The physical condition is lower.

The molecular weights are lower.

The cellulose size is lower.

But a lot of Barrow's data used pH as one

of the primary indicators of paper condition,

arguing that if you know pH, if you can control pH,

if you can measure pH and acidity,

you can predict what the physical condition

of a book might be like.

And what we can do is we can say in this regime,

before you start seeing a lot of scatter at the high end,

that the molecular weight, the DP, actually correlates

to physical properties closer than the best predictors

that Barrow had at the time.

So there's some physical meaning here to the size

of the cellulose and what the physical condition is of a book.

And that's really seemingly a powerful tool to use, you know,

about one millimeter diameter of a sample to be able

to tell you something about the quantifiable condition

of a piece of paper without having to take that half a page

of an 8 1/2 by 11 sheet.

There's also this question of what's been going

on in the last 50 years.

So this is Riley Thomas.

She was working with me

as a junior fellow this summer looking

at both molecular weight measurements.

She was responsible for some of those data points that you saw

in the last couple plots.

But also looking at the dynamic changing over time, right?

The Barrow data is nice.

You can say what happened to a book 300 years ago,

but it is a snapshot at this moment in time.

It doesn't answer the question

of what's happening dynamically with the books.

How are any of those properties changing

over natural aging conditions?

And so what Riley measured was acidity and compared it

to Barrow's measurement for acidity of the same books.

And so what I'm showing here is just Barrow's lab's measurements

of acidity, the recently measured acidity.

If we measured the exact same values as Barrow,

they would fall on this straight line.

And we see that at low end, that's kind of true.

At the high end, that's kind of true.

But in the middle, they tend

to start deviating consistently lower than you would expect.

And we, again, don't have a good answer why.

I have a couple of ideas.

Maybe there's enough buffer alkaline reserve

in the non-acidic books that it prevents any significant pH

changes over time.

Maybe these acidic ones have kind of bottomed

out at the most acidic values that they'll get to.

And it's the neutral ones that you expect to change over time.

Just a thought.

We don't have any proof of that yet.

Also looked at physical testing data.

Same scheme here.

This is a lot more concerning.

The physical condition, here measuring by fold data.

If we would expect everything to fall in the same line,

that's not what we get.

In fact, everything is a lot lower.

The condition of the books physically is changing a lot

more rapidly for the worse than the chemical properties are.

That's just a zoom-in of that really clustered region

down at the bottom.

And so there's this question

of the physical properties changing,

seemingly to change very fast.

The chemical properties, in terms of acidity,

perhaps are changing a little bit more slowly.

And so what's going on?

And this is something that size exclusion chromatography might

be able to shed some insight to.

This is what I've started doing some work on now.

This is stepping aside from Barrow for a second,

talking about artificial aging of book paper.

You can see that even after just one day,

that's that green arrow there, there's a drop

in physical properties.

And that's something we can measure

by size exclusion chromatography.

You can see changes in the distribution of cellulose size,

even after just one day of aging.

These higher molecular weight components are starting

to go away.

They're starting to be replaced

by smaller molecular weight components you expect

from chain scissions.

Overall molecule weight averages start going down.

And you can see that, even just one day of artificial aging.

And so if you look at these, what's a little bit deceptive

in these plots is it doesn't tell you anything

about the individual books.

You lose sight a little bit

of which book is connected to which data point.

And so I've pulled out two here, pointing to them, red and blue.

So the blue one is from 1664.

The red one is from 1745.

These were their pH values, the old one, the new one, for both.

And so these were books, one that was non-acidic in nature,

one that was about neutral.

You can see there's a dramatic reduction

in the fold endurance of the neutral book.

There's an even more dramatic change, not in terms

of raw number, but in terms of overall fold strength.

You're losing almost-- you know, almost, you know,

down to ten percent of your original fold strength.

This one, not quite as much.

And can you tell anything

in the molecule weight distributions of those books?

And what's perhaps interesting here is this book,

the one in red, the one from 1745 that showed

that big overall reduction in fold endurance starts

to show a tiny shoulder showing

up in the lower molecule weight region.

What you would expect to see from the result

of the beginnings of chain scission, perhaps showing

that there are really detrimental effects

on physical properties with even just this really small amount

of smaller molecular weight cellulose starting to form,

that you may not be able to see from pH measurements alone.

Right? This pH change, whether you go from 7 to about 7 1/2,

whether your measure is effectively unchanged

and shows you that this book is not acidic at all.

Doesn't quite match up with the physical properties

you're seeing.

Whereas these changes in the size

of the cellulose is something that does start correlative.

Now, that's something that I've found in general to be true,

that the books with low fold endurance,

with low physical properties, start having these really subtle

but indicative shoulders appear

in the lower molecular weight regions of the cellulose.

Now, you can see something is happening

that perhaps is not revealed

in other measurement techniques that have been used.

And so technical conclusions.

I hope I've showed you that micro-sampling

by size exclusion chromatography,

just one millimeter of sample,

something that I've been developing and starting

to use now on the Barrow collection

to show how it might be used in real books, can be useful either

in addition to other measurement techniques or as a replacement

for other highly invasive techniques.

It reveals some new insights into the chemical mechanisms

of degradation that you may have been misled

by measuring other physical measurements alone.

Having that Barrow data is also nice.

It gives us additional statistical analysis

and correlations that haven't been done before.

They're things that we can build on.

There are things that we can keep investigating,

looking at that dynamic age based tracking, right?

And so thinking about dynamic age based tracking

and what's changed over the course of 50 years.

I want to talk-- I want to take the last minute

to talk a little bit of my thoughts just in general

on the Barrow Labs, and hopefully you'll indulge me

in getting a little bit philosophical for a moment

to discuss what I've taken away from working

with the Barrow Labs collections.

I've been really glad to be able to work with such an esoteric

and unique collection.

And the thing I'm most impressed by when I look at Barrow's work,

when I add to Barrow's work, is not necessarily their insight

or even their outreach

in promoting what the chemistry is of book paper.

The thing I'm most impressed by, by the Barrow Labs

and the collections that we have is their notes

and their diligence.

Right? Leave it to a lab that's conserved--

that's concerned with paper permanence

to find a permanent home for these objects and these data

in a naturally aged collection spanning half a millennium.

It shows, to me, and really highlights to me

and has stressed the importance to me, the importance

of technical notebooks and technical note keeping

and keeping track of everything that you've done, particularly

for people who are concerned with preservation

over the natural lifetimes of materials, right?

I hope that my notes are as useful someday

as Barrow's notes, even if it's in regret, right?

[laughter] If, God forbid,

I do something that's regretted later on,

hopefully no one should go back and look on any of my work

and say, what the hell was he thinking?

[laughter] And should know what I did

so that they can go back and change it.

And so it strikes me as especially true

when discussing natural aging, right?

It's the nature of the job as preservation researchers.

Odds are good that none of us will see the results

of our labor, for good or for bad.

Right? It's the nature of long-term preservation.

It's the nature of working with materials where our goal is

to have them outlive us.

Right? We could mess it up badly.

But I hope everyone else is inspired here to let no one

to be able to say, what the hell where they thinking?

[ Laughter ]

So I'd like to thank a lot of interns who have worked

on this collection, a lot of staff in PRTD who've worked

on this collection over the years, making it look nice

and pretty and archivally housed and digitized,

which was a tremendous effort.

As Fenella mentioned in the very brief bio,

I do not have a conservation

or preservation background before I came here,

so I'm especially thankful-- I'm thankful to all the PRTD staff.

I'm especially thankful to Cindy and Lynn and Amanda,

who have helped kind of guide me into the conservation

and preservation world a little bit.

There are a couple references

that have helped me along the way

that I've referenced pretty heavily.

Sally Roggia, for example.

But I'd be happy to take any questions

or comments if you have them.

Thanks.

[ Applause ]

>> Fenella France: So we'll open for questions

and for the benefit of our-- external viewers,

I'm going to ask Andrew to rephrase the question

so that they can hear it.

[ Inaudible ]

>> Hi. This might be a bit too complex to get into,

but I'm just curious how you isolate or purify cellulose

from paper, which has obviously tons of other stuff in it.

And then how you, from that, are able to make sure you--

you know, you don't select

for non-degraded [inaudible] incorporating artifacts.

>> Andrew Davis: Yep, and that's a concern.

And I didn't dive too deep into it.

So-- sorry.

The question for online is how we make sure

that we isolate the cellulose from the paper and make sure

that we're not introducing other artifacts

by selectively removing parts of it or not removing parts of it.

And I would say that a lot

of the work has been done before me.

That's the hard work that had been gone

on in fundamental labs.

And that's what I was talking

about in this sample preparation that's fairly non-trivial.

It involves a lot of solvent exchange steps,

including warm water, including ethanol,

including dimethylacetamide, and that removes some of the inks.

It removes the sizing, if there's gelatin sizing,

if there's any kind of large-- also large polymers,

protein-type materials that are in there.

There's all of these insoluble components, too, right?

Fillers and lignin.

Lignin, especially in wood pulp paper,

very large scale, big molecules.

Those get separated out by centrification and filtration.

We use very fine mesh filters.

And the crux of it is this solvent system,

this lithium chloride dimethylacetamide

solvent system.

And there's been some really fundamental work on the physics

of that using light scattering to show

that it is a good solvent, by which I mean cellulose,

up to 10 million molecular weight dissolves well

in this solvent system.

And so if we know that cellulose is well-dissolved,

if we know that we're removing all these other fillers,

that's about the best that we can do.

I can't say for sure that if there's degraded, you know,

lignin, little bits of lignin that have broken off

that skew the averages one way or another.

If there's little bits of gelatin sizing

that have degraded to smaller molecular weight

that can survive and get processed into solution,

that those aren't skewing the results one way or another.

But it's about the best that anyone has come up with so far.

>> Thanks.

>> Andrew Davis: Does that answer your question?

>> Yes.

>> Andrew Davis: Okay.

>> You mentioned something about a punchline.

Can you at least give us clues as to

which journal you might publish in

or what you might call your article and/ or when?

[laughter] Because that was quite a teaser.

>> Fenella France: So that can be linked to the website and go

out as an ROC [inaudible] next published.

So we can get that to you.

But there's also some great work that he mentioned that--

you know, in collaboration with conservation.

So yeah, we'll make sure [inaudible].

>> This is Judy Biggs, I'm the team lead on the project

that you're referring to and the work [inaudible] working

on the publication at the moment and deciding where it'll be.

So we'll keep you posted.

Andrew's work is the last part of this that we're--

that was really kind of fundamental to the project,

so we're just looking forward to [inaudible].

>> Andrew Davis: Sorry.

For listeners online, we're just discussing publication

and how results are going to get disseminated over time.

But we'll be keeping people abreast

who are interested in it.

>> Fenella France: Charles?

>> If you want to use a molecular size

or molecular weight as a measure of the quality of paper

and you're wanting to evaluate degradation,

time of historical samples, how much variability would there be

in molecular weight or size of the original material used

to make paper, depending on source, species, et cetera?

For instance, cotton versus wood fiber?

>> Andrew Davis: Mm-hmm.

So the question was checking--

if you're measuring the molecular weights

of naturally aged historic samples, is there anything

that can be said for the original molecular weights,

particularly as it concerns, say, the sourcing

of the material or the process, making the material,

wood pulp versus cotton.

I get you, right?

>> Yeah, how much variability is there in the starting material?

>> Andrew Davis: That's something that I've been working

on in the lab here using our paper reference materials

in CLASS, Center for the Library's Analytical

Scientific Samples.

We have various wood pulp papers.

We have various standardized papers.

We have rag papers.

We can go back to these papers

and look whether they're rag papers,

whether they're wood pulp.

And so the question about what's the variability

in them is something I can't quite answer yet.

I don't know.

And we can't go back, obviously,

and measure where these books started from.

So we don't know how they've been changing over time.

But in terms of the papers themselves, we can start

with our lab papers that have been, you know,

historically prepared or that are rag papers

or that are wood pulp papers

and subject them to artificial aging.

>> So [inaudible] materials.

>> Andrew Davis: Right, right.

But we could start with--

we'd obviously measure the molecular weight at the start.

And I don't have an answer yet.

There's no easy trend to be drawn between--

>> When you go back and look at cotton, do you see a difference

between Egyptian cotton and some other species?

>> Andrew Davis: That I have not done yet.

And that's a good question.

>> Fenella France: We had one question from online.

Is there any one thing

that Barrow could have done differently

that would have been more informative in hindsight?

[inaudible]

>> Andrew Davis: Oh, boy.

[ Laughter ]

>> Fenella France: Can you try and remember anything--

[laughter] Can you repeat [inaudible] Andrew?

>> Andrew Davis: So yeah.

So the question from online was, was there anything

that Barrow's labs could have done differently in hindsight

that would have been more helpful?

I'd say they did a pretty tremendous job.

That's much more data than you expect to get

from most researchers.

That's dodging the question a little bit, I know.

[laughter] I would say that [pause] you know, some of the--

where different samples were taken in different parts

of a book would perhaps have been a little bit interesting.

We can go back and flip through his books and see

where pages have been torn out,

but we don't know whether those pages were used

for tear resistance in the cross-print direction

or tear resistance in the machine direction

or any of these things.

And so again, a plug for PRTD, where we've got class D coming

up with meta-data, where we're tracking which pages are removed

for which tests and what data is connected to what.

I think that's-- that would have been interesting

to have kept track of because we do see some differences whether

you take a sample from, you know, the bottom edge of a book

versus the middle of a book.

Or the middle of a page versus the edge of a page.

There are some slight differences.

If you take it from the front of a book or the back of the book

or the middle of the book,

there's a little bit of differences.

And how much those differences come out in his data,

that would have been interesting to know.

>> Fenella France: We have one more question here.

How were the physical-- how were the physical locations

of the samples within each book selected?

[inaudible] material edge or [inaudible].

And were you able to choose similar locations [inaudible].

>> Andrew Davis: Yes.

So-- one thing we've been-- one thing Riley Thomas,

who was working here, was also interested in is

where are we testing, right?

And so I'll use one of her slides.

And this book was only--

not quite accidentally chosen for this past week.

[laughter] Kind of timely appropriate, it's the 1800s.

Study of the Sky, with a chapter on the moon and eclipses.

But Riley was interested in where you're sampling.

And so the first answer to that question is,

I can say that we've been consistent

with these molecule weight measurements

against Barrow's data of picking just away from the margins

and away from the text block, towards the bottom of the page.

And every sample we've measured so far using this method has--

from in a book has gone from that spot, just for consistency,

from a randomly selected page in the middle,

not close, to either end.

We do see differences, depending on where you check.

And that's something that needs a little bit of work to figure

out and a little bit of work to systemize over time.

And that I, again, don't have a terribly good explanation for.

But for now, consistency

within the Barrow book collections is what we're

going for.

>> Fenella France: Any more questions in house?

Well, thank you all for coming.

As you can see, this is still a work in progress.

And maybe in a year or two years,

we will do the next installment and also the wonderful research

from conservation, when that comes up.

So please if you could join me in thanking Andrew again.

[ Applause ]

>> This has been a presentation of the Library of Congress.

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hello ladies gentlemen and persons in between my name is Tim Snowborn and

today another break from politics as I take a look at the new Netflix series

altered carbon for another episode of not so serious issues so I might have to

split this into two different parts cuz at first I'm going to talk about my

actual review of the series and then I want to get into some of the

philosophical aspects of the show which normally I don't notice normally I don't

see the philosophical angles of a TV show or a movie I wish I could I wish I

didn't have to watch these philosophy of series to get that but in this case a

few things occurred to me so I want to talk about that later first let me talk

about my thoughts in the show now a little background I've read the book

series there's three books in the Takeshi Kovich series it's altered

carbon broken angels and woken Furies is the third one I've read the first book

at least twice I want to say three times but not a hundred percent on that and

I've read the other two once each I'm gonna start with differences between the

book and the series based on what I remember it's been a few years since I

read the first book so I don't remember everything 100% but again I read the

first book at least twice and season one seems to be based entirely on the first

book oh and in case you haven't seen the series spoilers ahead there's some stuff

that definitely wasn't in the book and there's some stuff that I just don't

remember the main thing is that they made the villain his sister that that

definitely was not in the book I don't know why they decided to do that I don't

know how it helps the story to make the villain his sister we also were

introduced to the villain earlier in the book I guess we met the villain in the

show and we just didn't know that she was the villain the other big change for

me was the scene where he was checking into his hotel that scene in the lobby

where all those guys came to get him I was looking forward to that scene

because it was my favorite scene in the book it was different because first of

all in the book only two people came to get him it was a man and a woman it was

the man who was double sleeved that we saw and then there was a woman and they

showed a woman in that team on the show but then you never saw her again which

is kind of weird because she became sort of an important character toward the end

she's like the only woman in the book he didn't fuck even though he hung out with

her for a night the other thing that changed about that lobby scene the main

thing for me was that in the book the guy behind Kovich had a gun to his head

and Kovich the panel Co much was standing in front of that panel on the

panel's going please put your hand on the panel's we can give you full service

and the second Kovich put his hand on the panel the guns dropped down and just

turned the guy behind him into hamburger in a second just riddled him with

bullets right away and then proceeded to make Swiss cheese out of the woman who

was there that was a great scene in the book and it didn't quite live up to what

I imagined on the show mostly because there were too many people there and it

didn't immediately turn the guy behind him into pink mist so that was kind of

disappointing but it was still a decent scene the hotel was not PO themed that I

recall I definitely I don't think that was in the book I liked Poe as a

character I was disappointed when he died I was like oh no not Poe I liked

him come on that sucks the super-religious asian

dude with a predator camo he wasn't in the book I don't remember him at all I

do remember Lizzie and I remember psychosurgery I don't remember the hotel

giving her psychosurgery I don't remember him teaching her all

those badass knife skills and whatever I don't remember her showing up and head

in the clouds and killing half the villains henchmen I was kind of nervous

about like when I first saw the main guide that they had cast as Takashi

Kovich I was kind of concerned that there was gonna be a lot of hubbub about

whitewashing because you know he's supposed to be he's supposed to be at

least half Asian he's both be half Japanese and half Slavic I think

and I thought that guy doesn't look Asian at all but I thought they

explained it pretty well he's just in a different sleep and they showed him as

an Asian dude which is cool Lizzy's dad that black dude he I don't I

don't believe he was in the book at all I don't remember that character at all

I liked seeing Matt Frewer he was the guy who ran those games the guy who

looked like he was kind of ripping off Jim Carrey's Riddler look he was the

neighbor kids dead on Honey I Shrunk the kids he was the lawnmower man in the

second movie I always liked him back in the 90s I really expected the

neurochemical cab I mean do you even know what I'm talking about in the book

that kind of made a big thing about how Kovich had this chemistry in his body

like they had given it to him when they trained him to be a soldier and it gave

him superhuman speed and agility or something and every fight scene in the

book was like and then the neurochemical II hit the fan and you didn't really see

much of that in the show they mentioned it briefly at the beginning and there

were a couple of times where he could like see through walls or whatever but

their neuro chemist the neuro chemicals in the narration so I guess I wouldn't

expect him to say it out loud for no reason but still they could visually

show the neurochemical I didn't see the neuro chemicals having

any kids I mean I don't know I suppose they were mentioned but they weren't

featured so prominently in the book as they were in the show I was expecting

Miriam Bancroft to play a larger role how much fucked her at least twice in

the book Ortega did not get a new arm that I remember I don't believe that's I

don't believe that was in the book her whole family wasn't killed by that dude

that was kind of weird that whole thing where Kovach's clone tried to kill him

in the games we didn't see Co botches clone until the third book there was a

younger version of him like they copied his mind and put

him in another body a younger version of himself and the younger Kovich was

hunting the one we saw that was in the third book it's kind of weird because

you you might get the impression from the first book that he's a private

detective now like other people are just gonna hire him to solve crimes but the

plot of the second and third book are totally different from the first one in

the second book for some reason I can't remember he's helping a team of

archaeologists dig up some alien tech on another planet I don't quite remember

the plot of the third book except that it involves quelle krest Faulkner coming

back and again that clone of him hunting him down and they're on this world where

a civilization that died out long ago still has these airships patrolling the

skies and you can't fly above a certain height on this planet that they're on

because these ancient alien airships will shoot anything down that gets too

high that was part of the third book I don't remember the plot I just remember

a few things about it I don't remember Ortega's partner the Muslim guy or her

boss I feel like they changed the ending like I never I don't think I fully

understood what happened at the end of the book I remember that they lied to

Bancroft at first and told him a different reason for what happened I

think I remember something about him getting infected with a virus I don't

remember if that was the truth or if it was part of the lie again I never fully

understood what actually happened at the end of the first book so

matt'll maybe they got it right here but i feel like they changed the ending a

bit I don't remember ortega killing a bunch

of the villains clones that i'm almost sure it didn't happen in the books i

remember at the end of the book he like got the villain in a bear hug and

smashed out of a window and he destroyed her head with some kind of grenade he

like held a grenade against her head and he was like it was so like it was sort

of like a claymore like it didn't it destroyed his hand too but it didn't

blow him up completely it was just sort of directed the blast he held it against

her head and blew her head off as they were falling into the water i thought it

was really lucky that heaven McLeod's didn't land on any buildings i kind of

thought that they would bring head in the clouds down but I thought no they

wouldn't do that there's a heavily populated area below them it would

destroy so many buildings and kill so many people

but of course they brought it down and it lands in the water

I don't think head and the clouds went down in the book I don't remember the

lawyer I don't remember them framing her that's part of the reason that I think

they changed the ending I don't remember them framing a lawyer at the end of that

in the book I don't remember all those flashbacks with Krell kress Faulkner and

the envoys training I mean yeah they talked about her a lot but I feel like

they kind of added that kind of patted out the show with some of that even

though I mean she does become more important again in the third book if

they get to do the third book she does feature more prominently there that

whole thing about quell being the inventor of the stacks I I don't think

that was in the book I don't know why they decided to do that that seems weird

overall I liked it I mean there were a number of changes most of them weren't

very big not allowed to made any sense but they

weren't enough to sour me on the show I do hope that they get to do the second

and third books I'll be anxious to see those so yeah thumbs up alright that is

going to be it for my review of the show I'm gonna save the philosophy for next

time let me know in the comments if you've seen the show let me know if

you've read the books what you thought of the books what you thought of the

series how they compare thank you very much for joining me for this

conversation if this is your first time on my channel welcome it's great to have

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