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>> HI THERE. I'M JIM ZIRIN.
WELCOME BACK FOR
MORE CONVERSATIONS.
THE NEW YORK CITY POLICE
DEPARTMENT IS THE LARGEST
MUNICIPAL POLICE FORCE IN THE
NATION.
WITH ALMOST 37,000 OFFICERS.
WITH US IS THE POLICE
COMMISSIONER, JAMES O'NEILL WHO
WAS APPOINTED AS THE 43RD POLICE
COMMISSIONER IN SEPTEMBER,
2016.
HE HAD BEEN 33 YEARS ON THE JOB
AS A POLICE OFFICER.
ON HIS WATCH, NEW YORK CITY HAS
SEEN A CONTINUATION OF LOWER
CRIME AND HOMICIDE RATES.
THE THWARTING OF TERRORIST
ATTACKS AND A RENEWED SENSE
OF COMMUNITY RELATIONS.
A GREAT RECORD BUT THERE ARE
LINGERING PUBLIC QUESTIONS ABOUT
THE NYPD DISCIPLINARY SYSTEM AND
ADEQUATE ALLOCATION OF RESOURCES
TO THE SEX CRIMES UNIT AND THE
DEPARTMENT'S RELATIONSHIP WITH
THE CIVILIAN COMPLAINT REVIEW
BOARD.
I'M PRIVILEGED TO WELCOME
COMMISSIONER O'NEILL TO THE
PROGRAM.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
SERVICE AND THANK YOU FOR BEING
HERE.
LET'S START WITH THE STATE OF
CRIME IN THE CITY.
GOOD NEWS,
>> IT CONTINUES TO BE GOOD NEWS,
2017 WAS A GOOD YEAR FOR THE
CITY.
WE ENDED UP WITH 292 HOMICIDES,
ABOUT 790 SHOOTINGS AND WE WERE
DOWN IN OVERALL INDEX CRIME
ABOUT 4.5%.
YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOME
PERSPECTIVE.
I ALWAYS GO BACK TO 1990 WHEN
THERE WERE 2245 HOMICIDES IN NEW
YORK CITY, 5000 SHOOTINGS AND
600,000 INDEX CRIMES.
2017 WAS A BANNER YEAR.
IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE NYPD BUT
FOR ALL OF NEW YORK CITY.
WHATEVER WE DO, WE DON'T DO IT
ALONE.
WE ARE THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER
WORKING TWO WEEKS INTO APRIL
AND WE ARE DOWN ANOTHER 13
HOMICIDES THIS MORNING AND ABOUT
15 SHOOTINGS AND ABOUT 4.3
PERCENT IN OVERALL INDEX CRIMES.
>> WOULD YOU SAY THE CITY IS
SAFER THAN EVER?
>> WE HAVE NOT SEEN THOSE
HOMICIDE NUMBERS SINCE THE
1950'S.
A LOT OF HARD WORK BY EVERYONE
AND WE HAVE GREAT PARTNERS WITH
THE FBI, BILL SWEENEY IS IN
CHARGE, GREAT PARTNERS IN THE
DEA AND THE ATF AND THE U.S.
MARSHALS SERVICE AND ALL THE
LOCAL DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.
>> WOULD YOU ATTRIBUTE IT
ENTIRELY TO MORE EFFICIENT
POLICING OR ARE THERE OTHER
ECONOMIC FACTORS, NATIONAL
TRENDS WHERE THE CRIME IS DOWN
ALL OVER THE COUNTRY THAT MIGHT
ACCOUNT FOR THIS?
>> YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER CITIES
ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND NOT
HAVING THE SAME RESULTS WE ARE.
WE HAVE SEEN CHICAGO DO BETTER
BUT WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS
SINCE 1992 WHEN MAYOR DINKINS
HIRED 6000 MORE POLICE OFFICERS
AND MAYOR GIULIANI HIRED BILL
BRATTON BACK IN 1994 SO IT ALL
STARTS WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.
SURE, THERE'S A BETTER ECONOMY
AND REAL ESTATE IS UP BUT I
THINK THAT'S A TREND FROM THE
EARLY 1990'S WHEN CRIME WAS AT
ITS PEAK. WHAT WE DID AT THE
NYPD ALONG WITH EVERYONE
ELSE IN THIS GREAT CITY,
SAID NO MORE AND THE DOWNWARD
TREND IN CRIME CONTINUES TO THIS
DAY.
>> YOU'VE ALSO INSTITUTED
PRECISION POLICING OR YOU GO
AFTER REPEAT OFFENDERS AND
GANGS.
HASN'T THAT BEEN A FACTOR?
>> IT IS, PRECISION POLICING IS
IMPORTANT.
THE THING THAT BENEFITS US MOST
RIGHT NOW IS NEIGHBORHOOD
POLICING.
THAT IS A DRASTIC CHANGE FROM
THE WAY PRECINCT OPERATIONS
WERE RUN.
I WAS A PRECINCT COMMANDER IN
EAST HARLEM.
UP UNTIL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO,
IF YOU WORKED IN A PRECINCT, YOU
JUST ANSWERED 911 JOBS OR MAYBE
AN ANTICRIME TEAMS OR ANTI-DRUG
TEAM AND DID TRAFFIC SO WE
WERE TOO SPECIALIZED.
NOW WE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD POLICING
AND HAVE RESECTED 56 OUT OF THE
77 PRECINCTS.
THE SAME COPS IN THE SAME
SECTORS. WE HAVE TWO
NCO'S, NEIGHBORHOOD
COORDINATION OFFICERS IN EACH
SECTOR BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY
AND THE STEADY SECTORS.
I THINK THIS IS HELPING US
BRIDGE THE GAP AND ESTABLISH
RELATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND
ACTUALLY WORK ON IMPROVING THEM
CONSTANTLY.
>> WHEN YOU TOOK OFFICE YOU
SAID YOU WANTED TO PRIORITIZE
COMMUNITY POLICING AND THE
NEIGHBORHOOD POLICING.
YOU TOOK STEPS IN THAT
DIRECTION.
EARLIER THIS YEAR, THERE WAS A
SHAKEUP IN THE COMMUNITY
RELATIONS DIVISION.
YOU REPLACED OFFICERS -- HAVE
YOU REORGANIZE THAT AGAIN?
>> IN JANUARY, FOUR THREE STAR
CHIEFS RETIRED. ONE OF THEM
WAS FROM COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
NOW NILDA HOFFMAN IS IN
THAT POSITION. NILDA IS,
I WORKED WITH HER IN THE BRONX.
SHE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH ME
AS ONE OF MY LIEUTENANTS
IN THE 44TH PRECINCT.
SHE DID A LOT OF TIME IN
COMMUNITY AFFAIRS IN THE BRONX.
SHE IS A PERFECT FIT FOR THIS
JOB.
SHE IS OUT THERE EACH AND EVERY
DAY HELPING US MAKE NEIGHBORHOOD
POLICING A REALITY.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT OVERSIGHT.
IT'S KIND OF OVERWHELMING, THE
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES AND
ORGANIZATIONS THAT OVERSEE THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE THE CIVIL COMPLAINT
REVIEW BOARD, THE COMMISSION TO
COMBAT POLICE CORRUPTION, THE
DEPARTMENT OF INVESTIGATIONS,
THE FEDERAL MONITOR, THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL AND YOU HAVE
THE U.S. ATTORNEYS AND THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S IN THE
VARIOUS COUNTIES.
IS THAT TOO MUCH OVERSIGHT?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD SAY
IT'S TOO MUCH.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
CONSTANTLY LOOK AT ANY POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
SOMETIMES IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND
SOMETIMES IT'S A LITTLE
FRUSTRATING BUT I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY HAS
INPUT INTO HOW WE DO BUSINESS
HERE.
IT'S GOT TO BE THE WILL OF THE
PEOPLE.
THE NYPD IS GOOD AT REDUCING
CRIME.
WITH THE TRACK RECORD WE HAVE,
THE OVERSIGHT IS NOT ALWAYS
GOING TO BE THERE.
THE FEDERAL MONITOR WILL BE HERE
FOR A LITTLE WHILE BUT THERE'S
HOPEFULLY A PLAN THAT THEY WILL
DISENGAGE.
>> PETER ZIMROTH, MY FORMER
COLLEAGUE IN THE U.S. ATTORNEYS
OFFICE. A GREAT GUY.
>> ALL OF THESE ENTITIES THAT
HAVE OVERSIGHT OF THE NYPD, THEY
WANT THE SAME THING WE WANT,
THEY WANT THE CITY TO BE SAFE
AND IT'S GOT TO BE DONE
CORRECTLY.
>> TWO OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE
BUBBLED UP AND MAYBE THEY ARE
ALWAYS THERE IS THE EXCESSIVE
USE OF FORCE WHICH THE CIVILIAN
COMPLAINT REVIEW BOARD IS
PRIMARILY OCCUPIED WITH AND WHAT
DISCIPLINE SHOULD BE IMPOSED ON
OFFICERS IF THEY ARE THOUGHT TO
HAVE USED EXCESSIVE FORCE AND
THEN YOU HAVE THE ISSUE OF
SO-CALLED OFFICERS WHO HAVE LIED
UNDER OATH EITHER BY JUDGES AND
NOW YOU HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT
OF VIDEOTAPE EVIDENCE THAT MIGHT
UNDERCUT WHAT AN OFFICER
TESTIFIES TO.
THOSE OFFICERS, WHEN THOSE CASES
COME UP EVENTUALLY OUR
DISCIPLINE.
YOU ALONE, COMMISSIONER O'NEILL,
HAVE THE FINAL SAY AS TO WHAT
DISCIPLINE SHOULD BE METED OUT.
IS THAT A SATISFACTORY METHOD OF
DISCIPLINE?
OFTEN YOU REVERSE
RECOMMENDATIONS OF THESE
VARIOUS COMMISSIONS.
>> IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
I AM THE FINAL ARBITER OF
DISCIPLINE FOR POLICE OFFICER
WITH 36 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I THINK THAT'S THE WAY IT NEEDS
TO BE.
WE HAVE A DECENT RELATIONSHIP
WITH THE CIVIC COMPLAINT REVIEW
BOARD AND THERE HAS BEEN A
CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP OVER THERE
MY TENURE IS 19 MONTHS.
I AM NOT A PERSON OF CONFLICT, I
LIKE RESOLUTION AND I LIKE
COLLABORATION AND I LIKE WORKING
TOGETHER.
THIS ALL GOES BACK TO WHAT WE
ARE LOOKING TO DO, TRYING TO
MAKE THE CITY SAFER AND MAKE IT
A BETTER POLICE DEPARTMENT.
YOU WILL NEVER HEAR ME SAY THAT
WE CANNOT EVOLVE AND WE CANNOT
GET BETTER.
>> IS IT YOUR POLICY TO HAVE
ZERO TOLERANCE FOR OFFICERS WHO
LIE UNDER OATH AND ZERO
TOLERANCE FOR OFFICERS
WHO USE EXCESSIVE FORCE?
>> THERE IS PERJURY AND FALSE
STATEMENTS AND ZERO TOLERANCE IS
A TOUGH WORD.
PEOPLE BECOME POLICE OFFICERS TO
MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND MAKE GOOD
AND MAKE PEOPLE SAFE.
THERE ARE MISTAKES OF THE MIND
AND THE HEART.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE
TERMINATED FOR PERJURY OR FOR
FALSE STATEMENTS AND SOMETIMES
YOU HAVE TO TAKE OTHER FACTORS
INTO CONSIDERATION AND THE
DISCIPLINE MIGHT BE LESS.
EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE,
WE CHANGED THE WAY WE REPORT THE
USE OF FORCE A COUPLE OF YEARS
AGO.
EVERY TIME AN OFFICER USES FORCE
NOW, THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS.
THERE IS SUPERVISORY OVERSIGHT
THERE, NOT JUST SOMETHING YOU
TELL A DESK OFFICER.
USE OF FORCE, PERJURY, FALSE
STATEMENTS -- IT'S ALL SOMETHING
THAT I TAKE SERIOUSLY.
I PRIDE MYSELF ON MY PROFESSION
AND I THINK IT'S A NOBLE
PROFESSION.
ANYBODY WHO CROSSES THE LINE --
NYPD DOES A LOT OF THINGS VERY
WELL. ONE THING WE DON'T DO
WELL IS EXPLAINING THE WAY WE
DISCIPLINE OFFICERS.
I AM IN FAVOR OF 50A BEING
TRANSFORMED --
>> THAT'S A SECTION OF CIVIL
RIGHTS LAW.
IT SAYS THE PERSONAL FILE OF
OFFICER SHOULD BE KEPT
CONFIDENTIAL AND YOU SAY YOU
WILL NOT RELEASE RECORDS OF
DISCIPLINARY PROCEEDINGS.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
WE ARE LOOKING TO BECOME MORE
TRANSPARENT.
ANYTHING WE ARE DISCUSSING HAS
TO DO WITH TRUST AND THE PEOPLE
OF THE CITY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO
TRUST THE MEN AND WOMEN IN THE
NEW YORK CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT.
TO GET A BETTER LOOK AT THE
DISCIPLINARY SYSTEM IS
IMPORTANT.
THERE DOES HAVE TO BE SAFEGUARDS
IN PLACE.
POLICING IS NOT A PROFESSION
THAT'S EASY.
WE DON'T WANT TO THROW ALL THE
RECORDS OUT THERE BECAUSE THERE
IS THE POSSIBILITY OF
RETRIBUTION SO WE HAVE TO BE
CAREFUL OF WHAT WE RELEASE.
WE ARE ON THE PATH NOW --50A
HOPEFULLY THROUGH LEGISLATION
WILL BE CHANGED BUT WE ARE ON
THE PATH NOW TO TRY TO DO
SOMETHING TO LET PEOPLE KNOW
THAT DISCIPLINARY SYSTEM IS
VIBRANT, IT'S THOUGHTFUL, IT'S
FAIR, AND IT'S COMPREHENSIVE.
OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS
OR MONTHS, YOU WILL SEE MORE
INFORMATION COMING OUT.
>> IF THERE IS A DEPARTMENTAL
TRIAL OF A POLICE OFFICER AND
THERE IS A FINDING OF
WRONGDOING, ALL THAT IS PUBLIC,
THE PUBLIC DOES NOT KNOW WHAT
THE ULTIMATE DISPOSITION IS?
>> IT IS BUT IT HAS TO BE
BALANCED.
BEING A POLICE OFFICER IS A
UNIQUE JOB.
MANY TIMES, IT'S WROUGHT WITH
DANGER, THERE ARE THINGS WE DO
THAT OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS CITY
DO NOT DO.
I THINK WE HAVE TO BE REAL
THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHAT
INFORMATION WE RELEASE ABOUT
POLICE OFFICER'S PERSONAL FILES.
>> TWO OF THE REMEDIES YOU OFTEN
SEEM TO IMPOSE, ONE IS
CALLED DISMISSAL PROBATION AND
THE OTHER IS COMMAND DISCIPLINE.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THOSE ARE?
WHEN DOES CONDUCT RISE TO THE
POINT WHERE SOMEONE CAN BE
FIRED?
>> WE HAVE TERMINATED, SINCE
2014, OR PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
SEPARATED FROM THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT PENDING TERMINATION
SINCE 2014, OVER 700 MEMBERS OF
THE DEPARTMENT.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING WE
TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY.
COMMAND DISCIPLINE IS A
LOWER-LEVEL FORM OF DISCIPLINE.
IT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS, IF
THERE IS A MINOR INFRACTION OR
WRONGDOING, AND IT DOESN'T RISE
TO THE LEVEL OF CHARGES AND
SPECIFICATIONS THROUGH THE
DEPARTMENT ADVOCATES OFFICE,
IT IS DONE AT THE PRECINCT OR
DIVISION OR DEPARTMENT LEVEL,
THE COMMANDING OFFICERS ARE
RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT IS
FAIR AND IT'S DONE CORRECTLY AND
IT'S DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER.
IF YOU COMMIT AN INFRACTION OR
SOME SORT OF VIOLATION, IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT'S RESOLVED AS
QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
>> SUPPOSE AN OFFICER RECEIVES
DISMISSAL PROBATION, THAT MEANS
HE'S NOT DISMISSED BUT THEY ARE
ON TRIAL FOR SOME PERIOD OF
TIME.
>> YES, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING
THAT COMES BY ITSELF.
IF YOU RECEIVE DISMISSAL
PROBATION, THAT MEANS WHAT YOU
DID COULD HAVE GOTTEN YOU FIRED.
AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS IS A
PROFESSION THAT PEOPLE COME INTO
TO TRY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
SOMETIMES, THINGS HAPPEN THAT
ARE IN OUR CONTROL OR SOMETIMES
OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
IF YOU RECEIVE A PUNISHMENT
PLUS DISMISSAL PROBATION, IT'S
EGREGIOUS.
IF I RECEIVED DISMISSAL
PROBATION, SAY, IF -- ITS GOT TO
BE A PRETTY SERIOUS VIOLATION.
I'LL GET FINED VACATION DAYS.
EITHER 10 DAYS, 20 DAYS,
30 DAYS, 40 DAYS, 50 DAYS,
THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
THAT'S PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOOD.
ON TOP OF THAT, THEY RECEIVE
DISMISSAL PROBATION.
IF YOU COMMIT ANY OTHER
INFRACTION WHEN YOU ARE ON
DISMISSAL PROBATION, YOU CAN BE
DISMISSED FROM THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT A BRIGHTER
SUBJECT, YOUR SUCCESS IN
COUNTERTERRORISM.
PLEASE, TALK ABOUT THAT.
>> OF THE LAST FOUR YEARS SINCE
COMMISSIONER BRATTON CAME IN,
COMMISSIONER KELLY STARTED THIS
AFTER 9/11.
WE HAVE A VERY VIBRANT
COUNTERTERRORISM AND
INTELLIGENCE BUREAU.
RAY KELLY STARTED THIS AFTER
9/11.
THE VISIBLE FACE OF THAT WAS
CALLED CRV.
IT'S TRANSFORMED ITSELF INTO THE
CRITICAL RESPONSE COMMAND.
THEY USED TO BE A CAR FROM EVERY
PRECINCT WOULD BE SENT INTO
MANHATTAN ON EVERY TOUR EXCEPT
MIDNIGHTS TO HELP INCREASE
UNIFORM APPEARANCE SO PEOPLE
WOULD SEE MORE CARS OUT THERE,
MORE PEOPLE ON PATROL AND THAT'S
A DETERRENT.
WHEN THE COMMISSIONER CAME IN,
WE REENGINEERED THE ENTIRE
DEPARTMENT AND IT WAS THOUGHT
THAT A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT WAS
TO CREATE A COMMAND ON ITS OWN,
A CRITICAL RESPONSE COMMAND OF
550 POLICE OFFICER'S.
THEY ARE HIGHLY TRAINED
ANTI-TERRORISM OFFICERS AND YOU
WILL SEE THEM OUT THERE IN THEIR
FORD EXPLORERS, USUALLY ON
FOOT, WITH THE CAR NEAR BY,
IT SAYS CRC ON IT.
THEY WILL BE AT HIGH-PROFILE
LOCATIONS, HIGH VISIBILITY
LOCATIONS AND SENSITIVE
LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
I KNOW YOU KNOW ABOUT OUR
FOREIGN LIAISONS, 14 ACROSS THE
WORLD.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS NOT JUST IN
NEW YORK CITY, WE HAVE TO PAY
ATTENTION.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN ANOTHER
PART OF THE WORLD, WITH THAT
INFORMATION WE GET FROM OUR
FOREIGN LIAISONS, WE CAN
REDEPLOY OUR PEOPLE IN CRC WHERE
THEY NEED TO BE.
IT'S A VERY ROBUST
COUNTERTERRORISM PROGRAM.
THAT'S JUST THE UNIFORM
PRESENCE.
WE ALSO HAVE THE INVESTIGATIVE
END OF THAT TOO.
WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP
WITH THE FBI, THE JOINT
TERRORIST TASK FORCE WHICH IS
COMPOSED OF NYPD, THE FBI, THE
STATE POLICE AND A NUMBER OF
OTHER AGENCIES.
EACH AND EVERY THREAT THAT COMES
OVER THAT STREAM IS FULLY
INVESTIGATED BY THE JOINT
TERRORIST TASK FORCE OR BY
OUR INTELLIGENCE BUREAU.
>> TOWARD THE END OF LAST YEAR,
THERE WERE REVELATIONS ABOUT
HARVEY WEINSTEIN AND
SEXUAL-HARASSMENT AND
THAT GAVE RISE TO THE
ME TOO MOVEMENT AND THE SEEMS TO
BE AN INCREASE IN WOMEN
REPORTING SEXUAL CRIMES OF
VARIOUS KINDS AND SEXUAL
ASSAULTS.
YOU HAVE WONDERFUL STATISTICS IN
THE DROP ABOUT THE CRIME RATE
THERE WAS AN UPTICK TOWARD
THE END OF LAST YEAR IN REPORTED
RAPES AND SEX CRIMES.
IS THAT A RESULT, IN YOUR
JUDGMENT, OF THE CHANGE ARISING
OUT OF THE HARVEY WEINSTEIN
CASE?
>> WE SAW IN INCREASE IN
REPORTING AFTER THE INITIAL
HARVEY WEINSTEIN ALLEGATIONS.
THE NUMBER OF RAPES PARTICULARLY
CONTINUES TO INCREASE.
WE ARE UP IN RAPES THIS YEAR.
WE MET WITH THE ADVOCATES ON
MARCH 5 OF THIS YEAR.
WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE NEEDED
TO DO GOING FORWARD.
WE HAVE MADE SOME CHANGES.
WE HAVE CREATED A COLD CASE UNIT
WITHIN THE SPECIAL VICTIMS UNIT
WHICH IS 14 INVESTIGATORS AND
THEIR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS
GOING TO BE GOING BACK OVER THE
YEARS TO LOOK AT CASES THAT HAVE
BEEN UNSOLVED, THAT ARE UNSOLVED
TO SEE IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
WE HAVE ADDED ADDITIONAL 20
INVESTIGATORS INTO THE SPECIAL
VICTIMS UNIT. WE ALSO HAVE A
PUBLIC CAMPAIGN.
YOU MIGHT'VE SEEN IT ON SOCIAL
MEDIA.
IT'S ABOUT REPORTING SEXUAL
ASSAULT CRIMES.
IT'S UP TO THE SURVIVORS, IT'S
WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND HOW FAR
THEY WANT TO GO WITH THE CASE.
IT'S SOMETHING WE TAKE EVERY
REPORT VERY SERIOUSLY.
WE ARE MAKING SURE WE ARE
PROPERLY, WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE
IN THE SPECIAL VICTIMS UNIT TO
HANDLE THE VOLUME OF CASES.
>> YOU SAY YOU HAVE ADDED TO THE
STAFF.
HAVE YOU ADDED BOTH MEN AND
WOMEN TO THE STAFF?
>> YEAH, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT
COME INTO THE UNIT COME IN FROM
PATROL, SOME OF IT COMES IN FROM
OTHER INVESTIGATIVE UNITS.
IT'S A GOOD MIX OF MEN AND WOMEN
AND THAT'S IMPORTANT.
WHEN YOU ARE IN THE SPECIAL
VICTIMS UNIT, YOU RECEIVE
ADDITIONAL TRAINING TO MAKE SURE
YOU HAVE THE SENSITIVITIES TO
HELP THE VICTIMS OF A SEXUAL
ASSAULT.
>> ARE THESE ALL POLICE OFFICERS
OR ARE SOME DETECTIVES?
WHAT IS THEIR RANK TYPICALLY?
>> SOME COME IN AS POLICE
OFFICERS AND IT'S A CAREER PATH.
IF THEY DO A GOOD JOB AFTER 18
MONTHS, THEY WILL GET IT
DETECTIVE SHIELD.
AND SOME COME IN AS DETECTIVES
FROM PRECINCT DETECTIVE UNITS
OR OTHER UNITS WHERE THE
PEOPLE ARE ASSIGNED.
>> AS SOON AS THEY COME IN, THEY
RECEIVE SPECIAL TRAINING?
>> YES, THEY DO.
>> HOW LONG IS THE TRAINING?
>> THE TRAINING PROGRAM IS A
COUPLE OF WEEKS AND THERE'S A
COUPLE OF PROGRAMS THEY GO
THROUGH.
IT'S IMPORTANT THEY DO THAT
BECAUSE THIS IS HELPING
SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE
DONE WITH GREAT SENSITIVITY AND
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HELP
THEM RECOVER.
>> HAVE YOU COMPLETED YOUR
REVIEW OF THE SPECIAL VICTIMS
UNIT AND BEEFING UP THAT
ENFORCEMENT EFFORT OR ARE
YOU CONTINUTING WITH WHAT
YOU'VE BEEN DOING OR ARE
YOU CONTINUING TO LOOK AT IT-
>> THIS IS AN ONGOING
ASSESSMENT.
WE HAD THE MEETING WITH THE
ADVOCATES AND THE DEPARTMENT
OF INVESTIGATION CAME OUT WITH
THEIR REPORT AND HAVE A NEW
CHIEF OF DETECTIVES.
ONE OF THE FIRST THING HE IS
GOING TO DO AS HE COMES
INTO THE DETECTIVES BUREAU
IS TAKE A TOP TO BOTTOM
LOOK AT THE SPECIAL VICTIMS
UNIT.
>> A NUMBER OF THE AREAS WHERE
THERE HAS BEEN ALLEGED EXCESSIVE
USE OF FORCE AND HAS RESULTED IN
A FATALITY INVOLVES SOMEONE WHO
APPEARED TO BE MENTALLY DERANGED
OR EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED.
ARE YOU GIVING ANY SPECIAL
TRAINING TO OFFICERS CONFRONTED
WITH THAT SITUATION?
>> WE DO, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS
OF TRAINING ALL OF OUR PATROL
FORCE IN CIT, THE CRISIS
INTERVENTION TRAINING, IT'S A
FOUR DAY TRAINING PROGRAM.
I THINK WE ARE UP TO ABOUT 7000
PEOPLE WITHIN THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
EVENTUALLY, WE'RE LOOKING TO GET
ALL POLICE OFFICERS TRAINED IN
CIT.
ESPECIALLY THE SUPERVISORS AND
THE PEOPLE ON PATROL.
>> CRISIS INTERVENTION -- THEY
ARE REALLY BEING TRAINED IN HOW
TO REVERSE A THREATENING
SITUATION WITHOUT THE USE OF
EXCESSIVE FORCE?
>> THERE IS A TACTICAL COMPONENT
BUT IT'S MORE A RECOGNITION OF
WHAT YOU MIGHT BE DEALING WITH
ON THE STREET.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT POLICE
OFFICERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO
MAKE THAT ASSESSMENT.
WE ALSO HAVE A CO-RESPONSE UNIT
TO GO OUT WITH THEIR PARTNERS
FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF MENTAL
HEALTH.
THEY MAKE VISITS AROUND THE
CITY.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE
VERY SERIOUSLY.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP
POLICE OFFICER SAFE AND KEEP THE
PEOPLE OF THE CITY SAFE.
>> YOU WERE SAILING, IT WOULD
APPEAR ON A VERY EVEN KEEL.
WHAT KEEPS YOU UP AT NIGHT, WHAT
WORRIES YOU?
>> I AM A BORN WORRIER.
I HAVE NEVER BEEN A GOOD SLEEPER
BUT THAT'S OK.
I AM LUCKY TO HAVE THIS JOB.
I WORK WITH GREAT PEOPLE EACH
AND EVERY DAY.
I AM PROUD OF THE WORK THEY DO
AND I LOVE BEING A NEW YORKER.
ALL 8.5 MILLION PEOPLE
APPRECIATE THE GOOD WORK THAT IS
DONE EVERY DAY BY THE POLICE
OFFICERS, 24 HOURS A DAY,
SEVEN DAYS A WEEK,
365 DAYS A YEAR ARE OUT
THERE KEEPING THE CITY SAFE.
A LOT OF THINGS KEEP ME UP AT
NIGHT BUT THAT COMES WITH THE
TERRITORY.
>> EVERY OFFICER HAS TO HAVE A
BODY CAMERA BY 2019, IS THAT
RIGHT?
>> THE MONITOR HAS A PILOT
PROGRAM OF 1200 CAMERAS.
THIS IS IN 20 PRECINCTS.
WE SAW THE EFFECTIVENESS OF BODY
WORN CAMERAS AND HOW POLICE
OFFICERS ARE EMBRACING THAT
TECHNOLOGY.
WE TOOK IT UPON OURSELVES TO
MAKE SURE THAT ALL POLICE
OFFICERS ON PATROL, IN TRANSIT
AND HOUSING HAVE A BODY WORN
CAMERA BY THE END OF 2018.
>> AND YOU THINK IT'S EFFECTIVE
TO HAVE IT?
>> YES, IT DOES A LOT OF THINGS,
IT HELPS KEEP THE COP SAFE.
I THINK IT'S A DE-ESCALATOR FOR
THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE POLICE,
THERE'S SOME OBJECTIVITY.
EVERY INCIDENT THAT HAPPENS IN
NEW YORK CITY, THERE SEEMS TO BE
A VIDEOTAPE OF IT BUT WITH BODY
WORN CAMERAS, THERE'S A BETTER
CHANCE IT WILL BE FROM START TO
FINISH.
YOU CAN SEE THE WHOLE INCIDENT,
NOT JUST CERTAIN SEGMENTS.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU,
COMMISSIONER O'NEILL.
DO YOU THINK THE NYPD IS GETTING
TOO MUCH OVERSIGHT, NOT ENOUGH
OVERSIGHT OR ARE YOU HAPPY WITH
WHAT YOU HAVE?
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
I THINK THE NYPD AND THE CITY IS
IN A GOOD PLACE.
I THINK THE MORE PEOPLE ACTUALLY
SEE WHAT WE DO, HOW WE OPERATE,
MORE TRANSPARENT WE BECOME --
PEOPLE WILL HAVE MORE TRUST IN
THE NYPD.
>> COMMISSIONER O'NEILL, THANK
YOU FOR COMING BY AND THANK YOU
FOR COMING BY.
TUNE IN NEXT WEEK FOR MORE
CONVERSATIONS.
I'M JIM ZIRIN.
TAKE CARE AND ALL THE BEST.
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