We are now recording and good evening, everyone and welcome to IDA's April meeting 2018! We're very excited.
to offer you the session. Tonight, we will be featuring our guest speaker from the Association for Talent Development, Holly Batts, and doing the formal introductions for that is our alumni officer extraordinaire, Mr John Poole. John it is now yours...
Well, thank you. Our Guest Speaker for tonight's event is joining us from
ATD, Association for Talent Development, Ms. Holly Batts.
For those folks that are unaware with
our needs of the community with ATD, it is an esteemed organization that has proven dedication
and is industry recognized for offering credential opportunities as both a compliment and an extension of college and graduate level education. Ms Batts
is the associate director of credentialing at ATD. She has more than 15 years of experience working in the nonprofit sector.
and she also holds a master's of Science in Organizational Leadership as well as the Project Management Professional and Certified Association Executive Certification. It is my pleasure and honor to introduce Ms. Batts.
Thank you. John. Thank you so much!
Let me start sharing my screen.
Just to check. Can everyone see that first slide? [Audience responds in chat]. Okay.
Thank you very much for inviting me to do this. This is my first time doing it for a group like this. And so I'll be a little honest....
I'm going to maybe have some stops and starts, but bear with me. I've done this several times, talking about our credentials. But, when Lisa and I were talking about how we wanted
to introduce this to you all, we really wanted to focus on the Lifelong Learning aspect that ATD has and how even though you're (potentially) in a degree program now,
it truly is all about lifelong learning, It's always a "comma" or "semi colon" behind whatever you do, because, whatever you do,
could be outdated and 10 years, 5 years, even a year next year. And so, ATD is one of the resources and we hope that as you progress in your career is one of the main resources.
for the lifelong learning.
I want to give a little bit of my background before I go into the desired outcomes. I like to say that I'm not a talent development professional.
Naturally, it was something that I came into in my last role at my former job. I was a subject matter expert (SME) my role or my field is really certification and
in training people how to write items for the exams learn that I needed to
I needed to go back in and figure out how to actually develop that training and how to how to make it effective and so I'll admit that I started to look a little bit of what resources were that ATD offered because I didn't know!
And so many people do come from that place as an "accidental trainer" ... a few people are "accidental instructional designers" usually start out as that accidental trainer, that the subject matter expert that gets pulled into doing more and more training, training their peers.
but that's kind of my background of how I kind of found this lovely profession. But I want to talk a little bit about the desired outcomes from this talk.
And I
I'd really like for you all to be able to answer. What is the Association for Talent Development? What is ATD and what is ATDCI?
There are two different organizations you hear about ATD a lot, but there's also the ATDCI, which is the Certification Institute. What are the competencies of a ATD?
There's a competency model that you may have heard about. I'm not sure. But how does
Instructional Design fit into that competency model? ... and touch on other areas.
What is credentialing in the first place? What is a credential? How should I get it? Why should I get it? When should I think about getting one?
You know, you're, you're (potentially) in a program now. But, you know, what's the next step. What's that career path and what are the benefits. A lot of times if you're like me, you're putting yourself through school with student loans.
Yes, I have my own student loans to deal with. And so, what was that return on investment when I made the decision to do professional development. And so thinking about some of that...
...
A little bit about a ATD we used to be ASTD.
We've been around for 75 years started in 1943 and this year is our 75th year
About four years ago we changed our name to the Association for Talent Development that kind of really encompassed a lot more.
Not to get completely away from our training and learning performance roots, but to encompass really all
that makes our mission or our motto is making the world work better finding ways to make the world work better and
and so some of that does kind of bridge over into some of the HR pieces of it. And so being
What does it mean to be a talent development professional? How do you develop talent and we realized that some of those roles do live in an HR function, but some of them are in training and it depends, really
on the company or the organization and and where that lives. And so we didn't want to completely walk away from it. We're still embracing it very much. So as you'll see in the current model.
But about four years ago, we made the strategic decision to go with the Association for Talent Development.
Putting context around things really helps. And I kind of want to stop here pause here and talk about what matters to ATD and it really about every
Six to 10 years we do a very thorough research study that
delves into the roles of the different professional roles within talent development or as it was
Learning and Performance. And, really kind of doing the role delineation study and finding out what people do.
And we came up with this. It's been 13 years ago was the first one and then the second iteration was in 2014 and I'll show you that now.
And it's the ATd Competency Model. And it's, it really designed to answer the question of what do people need to know to do for success in various talent development roles.
And as you can see it kind of around the outside in the orange are the 10 areas of expertise that make up a talent development professional or the
definition of what a talent development professional could do you can concentrate on an area or your role might go into some of the other areas.
But it is really the basis for everything we do and it sits on a foundation of some of those foundational competencies that are really
the soft skills. It's a lot harder to test those soft skills, but they are skills that everyone needs to succeed in their job.
And really even outside of a talent development professional for even a certification professional like myself.
It would be, you know, the business skills, having a global mindset, knowing the industry knowledge in the interpersonal skills, the personal skills and the technology literacy, they have set that is the foundation of the competency model with the 10 AOEs (areas of expertise) surrounding it.
And as you can see, we'll dive a little bit deeper instructional design is one of the pieces of the path. The 10 pieces of the pie and covers really what you would expect. And maybe what you're (potentially) studying. Now the needs assessment, the
learning approach, figuring out what's the best way to get the message across.
And so what you can do. You can find us on our website and I have put it down at the bottom of that slide and
What you can do is on our website as you click on the different pieces of the pie. You can read a little bit about each one, but
what is so interesting is how they all interconnect because as instructional designers, you need to think about that learning impact you need to think about how it's going to be delivered you need to think about
how would somebody actually use it in the classroom or or in a virtual environment? And so it does kind of hinge on so many other pieces of the pie.
A little bit about how we share...
I'm not sure whether you all have seen any of our webcasts before or been over to TD.ORG? We are a member organization, but much of our content is available for non members as well on TD.ORG.
But you can also we have books and I've put two images there. The "ISD" and the "Art and Science of Training" and then we have the "TD Magazine" that comes out monthly
with really good articles really focused in on the field of talent development, but also with some concentrations on some of the deeper dives into some of those areas of expertise again at all is based on that competency model.
We also do conferences I said I would touch on those because everything right now our annual conference and exposition is coming up in two weeks in San Diego, and of course, everything is focused on that conference, getting ready for it or right now. I think
Somewhere around 10,000 people we're expecting from all over the world. And again, turning back to that competency model you can get education and learn and have offerings and every single one of those
areas that you saw in the competency model picture. We also have other conferences that focus on some of the smaller not smaller areas, but a smaller subset of instead of those 10 that like the Core 4 Conference.
We also have the certifications and and this is my baby and
I'll come back a little bit to it in a minute in a future slide.
But the Certification Institute is a separate entity from ATD. It's kind of a
Underneath the umbrella of ATD and we have two professional certifications, the Associate Professional In Talent Development and
The Certified Professional in Learning and Performance and that's the more senior one I'll talk a little bit about it in a minute.
But for those of you who are in the degree program. You also may be looking at furthering in your career. And so we also have a job bank that you can, again, even as a non member can use the job bank and find the perfect job for you.
Sorry. Messed myself up with a slide there.
I want to dive a little bit deeper and look at some of the content for instructional design that we offer at ATD. I pulled out two courses to show you here.
They're the "Case for Delight-enment: UX in Learning Design" and "To Build Effective Training Start with Creative Tension."
I think... I meant to count them today, how many were devoted specifically to instructional design.
But what you can do is, again,
you're (potentially) in school now learning about it. But then as you get into your career, you may come across something that you're not that familiar with because maybe it's not something you've worked with for a while.
Or maybe it's a new technology that you want to brush up on or get get the lowdown on before anybody else does. And so you can get that knowledge from ATD!
Again, this is of course this is then learning the "Designing Learning Certificate", but also we have a Designing for Virtual Learning". And again, the courses we have in person, we have them
live online as well as self-paced and we've even delved into the adaptive learning, which is also kind of a neat, new, new-ish thing not quite that new.
But really, whatever professional development that you decide to do you've (potentially) made the decision to be Ashford you made the decision to (potentially) be in a program.
But what is that next step what comes after that comma after you get your degree? And, really it depends on what you want to do what how you measure success.
What does your journey look like? And, it may be that you are in a job now that you're enjoying. But what is that next step? How do you want to get to from where you are now to that finish line?
And so I think about you know where I want to be when I retire that finish line. And of course, you want to make as much as you can with the way retirement and
and 401Ks are nowadays, you're trying to get as much as you can, but also you want to be fulfilled. You want to be
you want to really, you know, do something good in the world. And you want to use your talents and skills
the best you can. And so how, what does that journey look? Is that a promotion in the current job that you have?
Is that a new job somewhere else at a bigger company? Maybe that you want to specialize in something? And so it really is such a personal thing and that's something that I will stress again a little bit later. It is such a personal thing the professional development journey.
And many times you can get there with the credential. And so I want to talk a little bit about credentials, credentials make the professional,
because we say credentials, all the time, and you may hear me say the word certification and you may hear me say credentials will use some kind of interchangeably, sometimes, but there is a difference.
A credential is really anything that sets you apart. It's
It's the differentiator.
And will start in the upper right hand corner. The experience based endorsement because I'm just gonna say a little bit about that because that's not really where I'm going to delve for the rest of the talk.
Experience based endorsement would be something like a journeyman, or something that might be offered through a union. And so you would get
move up from one level to the next through experience. Since the testing through the Union, that would be, again, like the journeymen programs that you can do.
And it's really more only experience side of things. That's the credential that you get on the experience side of things.
But coming back over to the upper left hand corner, the higher education degree that's what you're (potentially) doing. It is heavily based in education heavily based in..in you know...
a lot of input of knowledge that you're gaining and then you're also kind of almost spitting it back out to your professors, because as as you're doing
Assignments, you're, you're taking in that knowledge and and your, your for grade are are analyzing it, and spitting it back out, but you know it's it's
based on.. you're you're being assessed for it. Yes.
Certificates are in a lot of ways the same way. Higher education organizations ....
higher education institutions offer certificates.
ATD offers certificates. A lot of times a certificate is a course that you get at the end, you might get a certificate of completion for and there are assessment based certificates as well.
It all depends on what you want to do and then moving back over to some of the experience side. Sometimes it education counts towards certification. Sometimes it's experience.
There's that certification or fellowship, but you can get
a certification is something that you would earn and
A fellowship usually is something that has bestowed on you because of your, your contribution to the field. And so a fellow program.
You have been recognized by your peers or you've been recognized by the leadership and that organization for being a fellow for being a thought leader.
and giving back to that profession. And so those are some of the credentials that that can make a professional development path.
And it's all in where you are and where you want to go and some of it depends on money and time...and work ... and experience. And so really where you are now depends on where you're going to go
I got a little grid.
Please forgive me. Again, I'm not from an instructional design background, necessarily. So this might get a little bit confusing, but there's some key differences between
the three main things. And like I said, I'm leaving the journeymen aside and talking really about the degree, the certificate and the certification. And, the eligibility differs greatly from each one to get to, to the Ashford program, you will have had to have finished a degree or finished up school
and gotten into it. I'm not sure where I did not ask Lisa what the requirements were. I don't know what you had an application or whether you had to do some sort of of project to get in.
But you had to at least be accepted into the program. It's the same thing with the with the certification. There are industry standards that mandates some sort of eligibility requirements.
It differs from certification. The certification depending on the level of certification. We have a junior level certification and we have one more senior level certification that requires a lot more, but for certificate. Usually, there's not an eligibility requirement.
Because really it's more of the intake of knowledge that the certificate is there's not really measuring the lot. It's more of the intake. Have you achieve it. The degree of course the coursework and you know it. I just finished my degree last March. So I was right there with you and
it takes a lot! And sometimes there is a practical our practical piece of it where you have to prove your skills that you've learned
the certificate. It's awarded at the end, of course, and there can be an assessment part of the certificate course, not always, but it can be. But really, the certification is is really all about that and
hopefully I didn't give anybody any cold shivers when I said the word exam!
But it is passing that assessment to recognize that competence in that field.
Re-certification or the continuing education piece with the degree often there's none.
With the certificate usually no upkeep with certificate which again makes it fun. If you're trying to go in and learn some of the
more advanced features of Camtasia. You know, you got it. You understand that for right now and you wouldn't take anything else until the next big thing came out.
So really, there's no upkeep needed with a certificate. But what the certification when you put letters behind your name, you're usually
representing the organization that also put those letters behind your name and so like with a physician even
we want to make sure that that when we put those letters behind your name that you are keeping current!
Because if we just put them behind your name once and you know 10 years down the road you're not continuing that professional development to say that you are still current in the field, then it's not really fair to still put those letters behind your name.
And I've put some some examples down here..the degree that you're (potentially) doing it at Ashford as an example that degree.
ATD has a master's program. It's an ATD Master Instructional Designer. That's a certificate program.
And then there's University awards and certificates as well. And for certification, there's all kinds
Whenever anyone asks me what I do for living as a, you know, just about every organization every profession has some sort of certification that
tells you if you're proficient or not, in what you do. There's the PMP, SPHR, APTD, CPLP...
I could go on... there are others as well. So that's kind of a broad overview of the key differences.
Why should you get a credential?
You're (potentially) in school right now you're (potentially) getting a degree. Why do you need anything else?
Well, to (potentially) gain credibility and increase marketability.
I got my masters last year and
as I go along and my job is there anything else that can differentiate myself? Is there something that I can do to really increase my marketability? increase my skills that could make it a benefit to our organization in which they would then reward me for doing that?
And so there's some ways to do it. And depending on what you were where you again. I keep saying it's a personal journey, but it's also where you are, if you if you've got this degree. What is the next step? Would it be
a specialization in some way? Or is it time to go broader? (If) you're an instructional designer, is it time to look at the bigger Learning and Performance picture?
I don't know. It depends on where you want to go maybe that your just as happy and you can be right now (potentially) in instructional design and don't want to leave that! It may be that you're ready to manage a learning program.
It's all in where you want to go.
And again, it's all in where you want to go to reach those goals, those, those goals that you've set for yourself. You know when you're sitting there and you're
You're gazing at your navel and you're thinking about where you want to be in five years 10 years and I think about your mom asking you, don't you have a five year plan? Don't you have a 10 year plan? Think about that because it really does help you, you know, they, they say.
point your...
head ...when you're skidding ...or when you're in on ice, you know, point where you want to go ...point the wheels to where you want to go... point your goals to where you want to get. Do you want
to stay where you are in the job that you're in, or do you are promotion or do you want to get the job with the bigger company or do you want to start your own company as another thing? So if you want to go out on your own. Now again, think about what your goals are.
And of course, always increase your earning potential!
I'm getting closer to retirement, unfortunately. But yeah, that's something that you have in the back your mind. You think you know what, where do I want to be when I retire. Do I want to still be working part time to make ends meet? Or, do I want to make
a good enough salary, so that I can be on a beach somewhere?
So think about where you want to go and how you can achieve those goals and a credential can help you with your earning potential.
Again, why do it? It is a personal decision, it affects your wallet. It affects your time with your family.
And I'm just talking about some of the negative things of it, but also
when I was talking to Lisa in preparing for this I was amazed at how many different areas. She knew about. And it's because she's taking the time.
To enrich her knowledge on these different areas and and if she pulled a book off the shelf and and she's taken the time she's put the time in, to read to learn to always be growing to always be learning.... that may not be you ....and it does depend on your personal decision.
I have actually
been thinking about myself where I want to go.
I've got 2 credentials. I've got the the advanced degree. What do I want next? What's going to help me next? And, it's hard to do that. And so even though it may be a personal decision that you make that should not stop you from asking a mentor.
Your professors, Lisa, asking her what her advice should be. Asking a friend. Asking a colleague or someone in the role that you want. Asking how they got to where they are.
Think about that and get their advice on what kind of credential. What kind of professional development would be best for me?
There is employer demand and I put this slide in to kind of show you the CPLP is our premier certification and we track because of
data analytics that we need every, every month to find out how often is it CPLP preferred in ATD's job bank and on monster.com. And, actually we've branched over to indeed.com as well.
But how often do any companies ask for CPLP preferred in their job description? And these are just some of the companies in the past year that have posted jobs in talent development where they have asked for
Aacredential, specifically the CPLP (on slide several companies listed). And, those are not insignificant companies. And again, I don't know where you want to go. I don't know what you want to do, but
But, you know, part of the, you know, and I'm not gonna get into the theory of at all. But is it her Harrisburg, or the motivation theories. Part of it is working for a company that you know is going to be able to pay you at the end of the month and have a good solid background of
having a good company behind your name. And so these are some pretty good companies.
Back to ATD. Bringing it back.
ATD does want to be a partner and professional development. And s,o we developed the Career Development Stack.
And so if you look at that the image that you see there the blue are all things that you can do in a short amount of time
for not a lot of money.
At the ATD webcasts immediately our member only, but then we do release them to non members. We have the essentials, which are easily digestible and then we have the ATD self paced courses there.
And so then as you start moving up in the stacks is what we call them, you can get a certificate in something
And from there you could be certified as a master instructional design our master trainer. We also have expert coach and master performance consultant
From there is our junior certification or the associate, we call it, it's the associate professional and talent development.
And it covers three areas of expertise instructional design, training delivery and learning technologies. And, that's at a minimum of three years that you've got to have experience in the field.
And we have allowed for that certification for you to have at least 50% of your experience. So again, back to that that
accidental trainer... it may be that say you're paramedic, full time paramedic, but you love helping training on-boarding your new
colleagues so much that you're doing at least 50% of your time in talent development developing that training or actually giving the training to them and so
For the APTD, we have allowed at least 50% of your time is devoted to that in your job because you still may be a paramedic for 50% of the time.
But you're increasingly your job has become more and more to train the new guys or girls that come on then the CPLP, the pentacle it's the senior professional
It's the Certified Professional in Learning and Performance, but is more senior. It starts at five years, you're going to have five years of experience in talent development and it does cover alternate areas of expertise.
And so the ladder is that you can see show that is a more arduous trope. But if you go up through the ramps it does help you. For instance, if you earn a master instructional designer. My voice is going, Sorry. If you're a master instructional designer through APTD when you take the
exam, you were exempt from those questions on the exam. So you only see training delivery and learning technologies. And then when you go for the CPLP,
If you have the APTD then you're exempt from those three areas that were covered on the APTD when you take the CPLP. It gets a little confusing.
But we try to stack what you've already done when you've already proven yourself. We try to stack it so that you don't have to reprove yourself to get to that next level.
I have put these in here {Contact information on slide). If you have questions that number. The 800 numbers are customer care (1-800-628-2783). They are available from eight to six Monday through Friday even holidays.
I think they're available even on weekends and there's the customer care address (customercare@TD.Org). And then if you would like to get to me, my email address is certification@TD.Org and you can reach me there. If you have any questions about any of this.
If you saw something in the slides and you want a little bit more information, please let me know. That's one of my favorite things to do is to answer questions from candidates are from people just interested in learning more.
One of the best things about the conference is the booth.
At the international conference and exhibition that comes up in two weeks (May 2018), we have a a huge booth on the expo floor and it's called ATD Central and it's where you can get everything!
You can learn about our content you can learn about our education courses to learn about our certifications. You can learn about our chapters. We have chapters all throughout the United States. And I think there's a big international chapters.
that are local to where you are. And so you can learn all about that one. I mean, it's my favorite thing to work the booth...a lot of people go oh no, you know, when they have to work a booth. It's like, yeah, I've got to work the booth! I love working the booth.
So yes, if you have any questions, please contact me or if you. I'm going to ask, and I didn't, I didn't ask Lisa this, but if you have specific questions about your path I would rather take it offline and talk to you personally
But if you have just general questions. Questions about ATD questions about anything that we offer. I can take those now.
Thank you so much. Holly. Actually, I think you can probably stop sharing your slide now.
And then we'll just come on in a video grid view here. For those of you that are in the the meet with us Dr. Johnson here again the IDA Faculty Advisor.
Holly. I don't know if you pulled your chat open yet or if others in the room, but at the bottom of your zoom screen, you should see a little chat bubble. If you click that the chat will open for you, usually on the right side of your screen.
And you can see that we had some conversation going on. I did a shout out to our Florida ATD Central there. I had to do it and also recommended like Christina asked a great question about certifications.
and degrees and I wanted to point out the difference between like regional accreditation as an entry point expectation for a lot of jobs.
And before we can take a few more questions, some notes I took....I want to address the personal journey, Holly. Thank you for emphasizing that your heart came through so well.
in that part. And I feel you so much because it is so personal!
And when I work with students because I'm a faculty at Ashford and I do a lot of sort of on the side career advising through office hours... students asking me what next Dr. Johnson, especially those about to graduate. And I'll say, you know,
picture yourself five years or even a year from now, like you kind of like what you said.
What's your perfect day? What are you doing? How are you sending your time? And, write that down just like we do in instructional design.
A list of goals and tasks that will go into that instruction and make that your life plan and start knocking off those goals as much as you can...
one a day.. you can't, you know, Rome. They say Rome wasn't built in a day. That old expression. It's truth. Neither are our careers. It takes time and you will have missteps, you will do things that you think .... hmmmm?
Maybe I shouldn't have gone that direction? But, since you did, look at what you gained? And, always focus on the positive I guess is the point in that
Relevance to your life. And then also, just to clarify Holly,not everyone that is an IDA club member is actually a current student... like John
is an alumni officer. He's graduated. So just to clarify, I love the, the focus you had towards the student population, but for anyone that is watching the recording.
I hope we didn't lose you on that! The idea is to share instructional design knowledge with the world through the, through the club and our LinkedIn membership and and our webcast here so
anything that you heard can apply, of course, whether your degree seeking student or not... We of course hope you are at Ashford!
We do offers Masters of Science in Instructional Design and Technology, as well as a Bachelor of Arts in Instructional Design, but then we also have officers and members like Lane and Lynn
who couldn't be here with us tonight...and Destiney and even Dolores so many of our officers are not even instructional design education students, they are in business programs.
Or in the health science programs that they're, they're all over the place because ID touches everywhere because of and if you read the chat the comment I made about talent development.
Anyone that trains, educates, you're all developing talent somehow. And the most important talent to develop is you your talent. Never forget you.
And see the last thing. Yeah, was to make sure that you look at job announcements, because there's no harm in calling ...like let's say you want to work at Microsoft, let's just use that because you mentioned Microsoft on your slide.
Call. Call HR and asked to do a 10 minute, you know, touch base and tell them who you are. The worst they can do is say no.
But the best thing that they could do for you is tell you what they're looking for. And you tell them where you are, where you're where you're headed and they may be kind enough sometimes they're not going to have time
{Laughter} yet they may be kind enough to tell you what do you need to go next to get in the door.
Connect with people on Linkedin, one of the goals of our group on instructional designer at ashford (IDA) on Linkedin, it's the mix where our members can meet each other because we have tremendous talent in this club.
Many practicing IDs. So you were just interested Jerry Hanson our manager of instructional design.
You know she's, she's in the field. She's leading the university's design Ashford and you know we are huge. So, I mean, this is she's doing it.
But she's still interested in learning more, and that is the best thing you can do is always need and want to learn more. If you're not insatiably curious in the field instructional design, you probably will stagnate early
and not enjoy your career. That's my personal opinion. Obviously all views are always my own
As we say. But anyway, enough, enough for me. Lane, Christina, officers, Scott. Thank you for being here tonight and Trina please feel free to unmute yourselves and join the conversation.
I see Christina's question in the chat and it says that she's asking is certification, more, more valuable to employers and I don't
I don't want you to think that and and knowing that that my job is all about certification. I want to give you a little bit of a little bit more background about me. I was in a job for about six years was kind of stagnant and I had a had my undergraduate
And thought what what what is going to be the next step. And what I actually did was got the PMP as the next step. It was something that I could afford at the time a lot cheaper than a degree.
And I could get it in less than a year and it made an immediate impact I people noticed me people said, wow, you, you, you mean what you say you you've got something behind you. When you plan a project you, you understand
all of the aspects of it. But even after that three years after I got my PMP i went back to get my master's degree because I didn't think that the PMP
was giving me everything I needed in the field that I was in, I always missed that masters. I kind of
screwed up early on as as Lisa said, just a few minutes ago... You may make mistakes and you learn from them but
Years ago, my first time around, and graduate school. I didn't do very well. And so I decided to try it again. And so I went back and got the graduate degree. So really, and then I got a promotion. So it does
I don't think the credential itself sometimes matters.
As a whole, across the board, I can't say that certification is more important. I can't say a degree is more important. It's where you are in that moment, and it's what
It's how you you position it, it's how you sell it.
Does that help, Christina.
It does. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm just still you know i'm i'm a few months away from finishing up my masters and I'm in the
MATLT, the Teaching and Learning with Technology Program. And I've just started in the online educator specialization in the program. So I definitely need to like Dr. Johnson said touch base with their career services, kind of get a better plan going that way I can look at the vast amount of
Certificates and certifications that you guys offer. I was just blown away when I looked at the website, there's so much to choose from.
Filtering it down to just ID. There's so many things that you guys offer and it's amazing. But I think definitely you want to have kind of a
Plan and a clear path to what you're, you know, you don't want to waste time and money, of course. And so I think that's where I'm at right now I need to develop a better
Picture for myself in the five
Or 10 years
I've got to stop you, Christina and Holly used the expression, which I love. You said I screwed it up early on, a little bit
students tell me this all the time. Dr. Johnson. I say, you know what we all did. And, but the cool thing about that is it's the winding path if you use if you follow through that metaphor and
Life is that do not build a case against yourself students, club members, anyone watching, I mean,
Keep going forward. Remember your goals and if you're not sure what your goals are. That's okay too...the point is keep learning.
Just keep experimenting, you will find a path, you will find a way. If you believe in yourself and that is probably the most important thing. And one of the things, Holly mentioned that
Also is just so inspiring is that once she was able to complete that masters and get that credential. It opened a door for her.
And, you know, having those thresholds that we can pass through in life. And then we have them natural rights of passage.
You know, whether it's marrying and having children or, or, you know, becoming a member of your local community organizations and volunteering. We do things in our life that give us
a momentum forward but education, whether it's a certificate or whether you just complete a massively open online course that gives you no credential whatsoever.
A MOOC in other words, for people that have heard of that ...these things, bring you to a new place and
You know, again, just don't beat yourself up proceed. Christina I've had you as a student and you are amazing. I've had you as a student and you have got to stop the negative! You're on the right path but yes do reach out to Career Services.
For students listening, I wasn't kidding. They are amazing.... our career services, folks, that's what they do and they have so many awesome resources I put the link in the chat. Go to the website just
On your own. You can learn a lot from the website, but those folks are sitting there waiting to hear from you.
they want to hear from you. Really, they do!! And as part of your tuition to to use that service. So just like the writing center the library.
No time in your life than when you are a college student, whether it's graduate undergrad will people want to help you as much
as they do then. So reach out. Don't be afraid to ask for help. It's not even help.... it's support... its belief in you ...because you believe in you. And that's why you're here.
It's why I'm here at, you know, almost seven o'clock on a Tuesday night and everyone knows I'm a morning person. So I love this this club is challenging me in new ways!
Alright, so with that said, we have a few private message to me. Okay. Looks like Scott's gonna
You don't have any questions, you're going to drop out, Scott. Thank you again for coming. Scott, and I've met through LinkedIn and I did advertise the session there so I'm really thrilled that you could make it this evening and
Trina you've been awful quiet as anything you'd like to join in as one of our non officer members here this evening. You can unmute yourself.
Going once....
Nope. All right, we're gonna let Trina off the hook. Thank you for being
here. Lane? Any closing remarks? or John? Thank you again john for the introduction this evening.
Well, actually, I've got one Holly and I've got a question for you. Just in conjunction with everything that you've got going on so
I'm a, I'm a military veteran and a lot of what I do in my career is I work with the veterans that are coming out of service and trying to transition into the civilian world.
We have a mentorship program that we've instituted that and it's an employee engagement team.
So as I was listening. You talked about experienced based endorsements and I automatically reverted back to my days of military ranks and how that there's a correlation that exists there.
Do you find a lot of folks that are kind of looking for that direction roll into your program is maybe an introduction to secondary education when they come from a military background is that
a value set for them? Just to get a couple of ideas along those lines. If there's a, if that makes sense.
Absolutely. One of our biggest
Constituencies is the military and fact someone that is one of our we have facilitators who teach your classes that our contractors, but we have three who were in house and one came out of the Navy, and he is. I wish he was here, he is great with
Explaining how you make that transition because he made it himself. But there are all kinds of programs that we have, I can get you some more information specifically about the veterans programs that we have and just some help. As far as
Making that bridge from the military career to the next career using some of those endorsements. You got when you were in the military.
Excellent. I'll reach out to you. I wouldn't mind gathering some of that up just because I think I could use that medium as an example at Ashford we've got a very large military and veteran contingency as well that may find some some benefit there.
Oh, good, good.
I'm very excited to ask that question Lane, because it looks like it spoke to Trina as well Holly's you may know astronaut is actually a very much committed to serving those who serve as well. I had to start with go army and my comment because
My dad is a combat veteran from Vietnam and so army. He's army and army always came first.
But I'm also Coast Guard fan being a coastal person. So I had to sandwich that comment. There was a little bit of agenda in there. I apologize, but I am a huge fan of those serving the military, and I had forgotten actually
About the the credential track. There's a lot of movement at the federal level to help
returning veterans, especially from combat, combat especially and all those who serve on how to translate the amazing training you get in the service into the workforce. So yeah look broadly Lane.
Beyond degrees again as I'd mentioned in response to Christina in the chat. It's really about seeing what qualifications are needed and talking to the organizations and then remembering where you want to go you ...you
Your career is a part of you, not all of you, but it is going to be something that defines your perfect day..... so I hope everyone finds that perfect day. With that said, John? Last call for final comments and then I think we're gonna wrap up at 10 minutes to the hour.
Going once....
John has gone silent on us!
But I'm so happy you can be here tonight, John. John again is our busy alumni, so I can't fault him for not being able to come on camera at the moment.
Alright, thanks everyone. Again, we will rejoin IDA meetings again in June, June 19th. We are taking a break in May to accommodate vacation schedules and otherwise, and we are looking forward to
Getting the Design Lab up and running with a real world experiential project for our learners to have a dabble in ID skills, hopefully something that you can find of value and take back to your workplaces and lives generally. All right, thank you again everyone, Holly very appreciated.
Thank you so much. Bye bye.
Bye Bye everyone.
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