Olá Youtube, name is Ricardo lino and I'm a wheel addict
welcome to the skate talks number seven and today my guest is I would say a
childhood hero my guest today used to skate for a brand called Senate I'm
pretty sure most of you know about Senate rails he also used to skate used
to be a pro skater for son and he had video parts in way too many videos you
might know him for is Savannah's but for a while a lot of people haven't seen
anything from aim skating so today I'm going to call mr. Billy prison let's see
what's up with mr. Billy Prislin. let's make the phone call yo yo what's up
Billy how are you doing ? good I'm all good and just make it I just
made a little intro about you where I said that you used to be one of my
childhood heroes basically we're about the same age but when I was like I don't
know like when I was like 16 17 17 18 when vg8 came out I saw her video part
like way too many times so I remember I used to know like every single trick
that was coming next and the way you grab your grinds and everything and
remember every single trick from that video but the truth is for a while no
one saw anything from mr. Billy prison so what's up with Billy prison what you
have to nowadays um now I'm just working a 95 job you know like I found a good
selling company to work for and just been trying to like build like a
foundation so that I have somewhere to go forward you know and I took a long
time for me to get there what do you do in that's nine-to-five job
I'm shipping like shipping receiving warehouse work okay and why did you say
it took that much uh why did you say it took a long time for you to get there
was it hard for you to leave those skating days or I guess something I
decide that I never really like had like a job or anything you know like I I
didn't know how to like like go to an interview and lock down a job and stuff
like that so like I don't know my just the way I am socially is like really
weird so it took me a while to even like get over that and just just go to an
interview and actually like hold a conversation with the person giving me
an interview you know okay so let's go back a little bit then so you told me
before the interview you started skating when when you were about 12 13 right
wherever okay and then when did you first start getting paid to skate ah I
think around like 17 okay so maybe you think that has anything to do your with
your problem like you're saying you get a job maybe because when everyone else
were young and trying to get a job you're just getting paid to skate do you
think that might have done any difference yeah not really I'm not
really like falling on that setup I'm saying just saying like I like what what
really happened was I didn't I wasn't like committed to anything like fully
like I was I was in college and I was skating and I was like he Jing and I was
doing all these things and I I was like super stoked that I was sponsored and
like Trek like skating so I'm like why am i get sitting here like spending half
of my time in school when I should be like following this you know and then
like the other part of me is thinking like oh
but you need to like finish school and this and this that's like I don't know I
just went in a couple different directions and I never like develop any
like skills that I could actually use so you you end up not finishing school then
no well I did finish school well I go did you study but what did you study
what did you have cycle psychology yeah I'm did you finish college or yeah yeah
okay why don't you work in anything related with it nowadays it's just the I
don't know it's just not something I felt like going in here
you know like once I once I finished with the degree I just wanted to you
know just find a job somewhere and just move on from that you know like I was
glad the things that I learned and I was glad to have a degree but it it's not
the direction I wanted to go it's kind of like what happened with me so
basically and I've said it's something that I I enjoy somehow but I did work a
little bit of it I've studied sport science and for a little bit I used to
be like a personal trainer and working at primary school teaching kids and
stuff like that but then I just couldn't do it anymore but nowadays what I do it
I end up putting everything together which is like what I love to do and what
I've studied so maybe later in life you're gonna somehow find a way to work
with what he studied and put it with something that you like to do who knows
right so tell me you used to skate for Senate Senate used to be like one of
probably one of the biggest brands that inline skating ever had I'll do the
whole thing happened to you how did you how did you first started getting
percentage uh well it kind of started with I guess it started with in paradise
because um Shane Coburn who ended up like
starting medium later on but he was the team manager at team Paradise which was
like a roller warehouse back then or whatever like a gate pedal
I remember team Paradise might be there were known worldwide so yeah yeah I need
to so many you stated that you grew up skating that erotism yeah yeah but uh so
he was the team manager and I was like trying to get sponsored by a team
paradise for a really long time and so like Shane started to know like who I
was like he saw my like launching me tapes and all that but like it just
never worked out with the contract and stuff and then by the time like I got a
contract back and it was like a year and a half later or something like that and
it was like Shane Coburn was already gone and like it was just like I was
like already over it like just moving on to like something else and then like I
thought she had the VG for premiere I think it was like it was around compare
dies somewhere like in Huntington Beach and Shane was there he had just started
like medium and it was like so much like hype around medium with the Jake Elliott
and stuff and like it was just crazy and like I saw him and he recognized me out
of my ad of a flow team you know and but yeah you want to be on in like handed me
four wheels like particularly like anti record wheels like the outside and like
so stoked dude I was just like would and so I was on flow for medium like for a
while like maybe six months or a year or something and then like I it's actually
kind of a long story how I ended up on senator I mean that stuff that's just
the beginning and then after that for a while what's his name of Shane Nelson
and I think Minnesota mm-hmm he was starting a you
I did wheel company and he was like trying to get me on there like really
bad and like Joe you know Jonah brownie was like convinced me is like yeah you
should go you should you should do it you should do it but like it was kind of
weird because uh they what they had Nick Patrick as pro and Josiah
he was probably pro but they wanted me to be ham no but death and I did or for
medium for United okay and so like nothing was really I like I
talked to Shane Nelson on the phone a couple times and we had like verbally I
told him oh yeah I'm down you know and then like all of a sudden like a week
later I was skating with a Roadhouse brandy visor and a frank happiest this
pool and like I they already knew me from the medium days and stuff and just
from being around like seven one for like Orange County area like me and
Randy and like a couple others were kind of the only ones like back then you know
like small group of people that was growing you know but I never I won't
pray and was that before or after we to the VGA video point came out before that
was like way before this is like right around I don't remember which video the
trick was in but it was a true top acid on like a square rail I remember I
remember that I remember that yeah I thought I remember what video but
limited to topaz it with some what is with some white escapes right some fifth
element to hell I don't remember the video which video was it but I remember
that trick and so like Roadhouse and a prank at BK
we're right there and they're just like we should put Billy on spin it and
they're like and they're just like looked at each other yeah it does it
funny or like that'd be cool or something and like couple days later
like if they're just like hitting me if I go they talked to Brooke about it in
Arlen there Julia second so it's just like real quick out just had to kind of
like shame you know like all now man don't
want me to skate for Senate and and it's what I'm glad you couldn't say no right
okay and then did you went straight to the pro team or you you were first am
for a while and then I was then for a while like a pretty kind of like actual
real long time because uh for one I wasn't hey April and it was like it just
it wasn't like really a thing to go pro unless you were a April or I remembered
that I remember going to do a sa and contesting Perry's in the first ten
would go would go pro I think that was it's the first time we'd go pro the
first ten would be competing in the states in the amp to go pro something
like that I don't remember but I remember used to need to be in the first
ten to go USASA Pro right yeah yeah and I had a real hard time with that because
I I didn't really like wink my tricks together and align really well I didn't
like HIPAA I didn't know how to hit like hips launch boxes I could really only do
like a go forward like I wasn't comfortable doing a 360 really like I
just never trained on that stuff or anything so like I was doing like true
spin con grands and like everybody's going crazy but like it didn't end up to
be like a high scoring run because it wasn't like like it didn't have flow for
like a crowd and stuff yeah I know what you're saying you're more like a back
then like a street skater in the street skater back then used to be like a real
skater or an alleged kid or some yeah I was I just like specialized and rails
when I couldn't like like branch out from that really like I didn't see the
big picture I just like I just tried to do like the hardest craziest trick and
like since everybody was cheering and stuff if when I came off of the rail I
thought I was doing good and I never qualified is like a a pro it was just
like oh yeah but independen like it all makes sense now
you know but like and people were telling me at the time like oh you need
to do it like this and they were hanging and was just like dude I just want to do
true spins and like I was I had I was just a weird way about it you had your
own thing going on yeah but you end up having some Pro wheels for Senate I was
looking yesterday you even had a brochure for 7ya alfredo and if you
weren't a sa Pro how did you end up getting into Salomon protein well me and
Jeff Frederick I think like six months or a year before me turn pro without
going as a pro on Senate like it still wasn't like a state sponsor thing yet
and then uh so Karen Gillan wanted like these like push them to really turn me
pro also like right after that on Senna and then once that happened is just kind
of like oh it's just if like Solomon just you know put my wheels on there
skating was like there's no reason like it was almost like I just went for like
a year on almond like that on like the national team and they're like just you
know everything since everything was cruising right along is what it whatever
you know making pros like there's no reason not to like I don't know how that
really happened it just kind of happened who was the Salomon team manager big
thing was it anyone that's skated over Mike Wilson I all off he's like a
recreational skater or a hapa he write you guys a lot bike like Lanza and then
when you when you were a Montana's where you wanna come monthly payment or
something like that or only when you got pro you gotta start getting paid oh well
only when I got earlier okay so another question you saw that a few people made
some questions on on Facebook including
myself and made big questions so you know like nowadays of course there's
some people still getting paid even if skating is a lot smaller compared to
what it used to be but just out of curiosity if you can say it of course
how much would Senate would pay for a pro skater back then back then uh I
think with all the companies I think it's different for each person I don't
know like the Pentagon yeah of course of course
of course if you were like rodell's back then you would be paid probably more and
all that but yeah even if it wasn't Roadhouse just somebody's like say
there's somebody who's been there like a year longer than you or something like
that like seniority and whatever you know but well I they started at for me I
started off at like $250 a month from like from tennis and then like I think
like a year later it was like 500 and then like her life and back then minimum
wage was like seven dollars or something like seven eight dollars for Santa Anna
would you would you get paid per set of wheels to like royalties yeah it was
like 10 or 15 cents or something like that I think and I'm like every wheeler
percent first that okay or maybe for whatever but it was like Anna for the
shirts is like 50 filters or a quarter or something like that
he didn't made a difference in the end of the month of oh really
only when I put my wheels on the skate there there was like a huge like all the
time out of nowhere there was like a huge like royalty check from Senate like
on the wheel because they like purchased a bunch of wheels yeah for silliman yeah
okay and then with Solomon that was when where the original question came from
how much this Solomon used to pay to the pro skaters like I know that the first
guys that got into Salomon that used to be paid like the most like around 98
like Matt Andrews and farmers Yogesh Buddha and who was it what else from
Japan what's his name Chiaki - yeah those four guys were like the original
Salomon team but how much did Solomon used to pay to a pro skater like in
2000-2001 well the first year I was on the national team which was like I guess
Amer whatever it's like you know national obviously just like in the US
UK or whatever but they actually blooming internationally that year - but
on that year I just started me off with $400 a month and like the next year when
I went to international one of the allows in one month the next year is
like 1,400 and then I then make it beyond that sorry well I was going to
keep going up after that it was at that time I was kind of a lot you know
because I was getting 14 under there and then 500 from senator that at one time
so it was like actually more than like a like a minimum wage job at that time you
know but it wasn't that much you know better like a young person it was a lot
yeah and then when did the whole thing started dying for you what happened
there or uh like how did I was the the email or the message or the coal from
from Solomon saying okay we're done with this remembered it you know it was never
like it because I kind of like predicted it because I had like a really like I
was just like really crazy on tour like drinking and like fighting with people
in Europe like every night so like just because of that alone like
I think I'm not sure if they was like even wanted to give me another contract
after that or whatever but on top of that I was also like just not like
skating the comps like I told you like the ASA's like I was just like like we
would go to like like Paris Hershey and stuff and I just like you know wasn't
been that like nerve so like skate in a big like skate park arena and stuff like
that and like I wasn't I didn't like hold up my duties as like a performer
really I know exactly what you mean I kind of felt the same and then I was
never on the protein for USD but I was on European pro team and I remember
going to places and like just feeling that everyone is trying to be better
than you you kind of feel like you're being judged and then that makes you not
want to skate makes you want to find excuses not to skate makes you whatever
and I somehow understand what you're trying to tell me but so you end up not
getting a contract with Solomon before they really jump out of skating yeah
yeah no it was like it was like I just got like a one-year contract at a time
so like like kind of like at the airport the end of like the last board like that
I was on like I was just like have been getting in so many fights almost got
arrested and one of like the homies got arrest is like because of a fight that I
probably started and like suck in like it was just all bad like like I was a
bad person to have on Lucy and Paul well you know it's kind of like like it just
felt like like I just kind of said it out loud like on like one left is over
like yeah well I don't know if I'll be here next year or somewhere like that
and then like like nobody said anything and like robtop is like no you better be
hearing like Brendan Campbell's like yeah yeah you better be hear something
like that but it is just like the manager didn't say anything and I was
like all right like yeah I probably won't in a Mumbai and I used to
in contact with any of those guys and like I thought the aerial faces once a
while you know fucking here with it and though it was shrits or the hopefully
next year I don't really like I followed Vinny like I think is like wedding
videos and stuff at our like our like I haven't kept in touch with anybody like
know I'm in a personal basis like almost nobody from that time and then the
question is like did you progressively ended up stop skating did you never stop
skating or I did the whole thing how did it the whole thing happened after those
salamanders yeah that's why it's kind of weird like just thinking about like like
quitting like just the word like quitting and like when people say quit
something I was like I didn't really like intentionally quit obviously you
know like it's like I was more of like a progressive thing like you said you know
like once that happened like is kind of like where I well now I can like skate
USBs as a wall new or whatever you know like it's kind of cool like and I was
still skating assess I wasn't like I needed like a sponsor like gate like it
wasn't anything like that it was just like just like because I was out there
at school in Santa Barbara so it's like ice and I grew up in Orange County which
is like to always like south of there and so like I come and I went off to
college like when I was really like everything was like floating the Senate
has fallen and like after the first year I was up having to take a year off so I
could just travel and not even have to worry about school and stuff and so it's
just like blown up for me but I was away from my my home I was like up north
since school in Santa Barbara but also plenty of roller bladers there I like
developed like new friends and new relationships over there my whole like
college experience like going on at the same time and I just like I kind of like
lost touch with like all of these that I grew up skating with and stuff you know
like I can't like a little bit like around the time of like not like
every time that you were going back you're out of the normal reality right
yeah you live it you're leaving something different from everyone else
but then when you go back to your old friends and all that you kind of feel
like you're not part of their their lives like going to high school is when
I was in high school and like Jo and Josh Teddy and Kevin Gill and all those
that'd be guys you know like at first Jo lived out in the nine-oh-nine Valley
like out in the East California whatever it's called the Inland Empire so that
was like a hour and a half away from me but it was like so close enough that I
could go out there and like Google Szechenyi and stuff but then all those
guys ended up moving to Warren County like ten minutes away from me so like
when I was like 17 and I like got out of high school like I just go hang out with
the homies and go stayed and like just like I was like those are my high school
friends like weren't even like in my high school you know they're just like
from all over like America just like two cities over just randomly because
rollerblading blew up like where I happen to grow up you know I was like it
was just weird you were lucky to be Manuel so did you
ever move to the fbi's oh he was just close to your place and you ended up
hanging out there I think I never lived there they live all around me like this
like sometimes they'd be to the north like sometimes it down in like South
County but like there was like a good like five six years that there was it's
like right around like right around there right around where I grew up and
then like and then I just moved away and like tried to like halfway do like the
college thing in like when I came back it was like never Sam you know like I
was different and the whole thing was like different yeah I was like do you do
still talk to Josh Betty la da all raka Lopez really do you even
have Josh Betty as a friend on Facebook or anything like that yeah okay so did
you sort of post a Josh penny did like a few months ago like about like the just
bad influences yeah about the drinking and drugs and all that stuff yeah ever
did you ever felt like somehow that affected like being around those guys or
I don't know I'm not saying you did or you didn't
but being around those guys are doing that type of things or being with guys
doing that type of things ever affected
your choices in skating or your choices in life or anything like that
well I mean if anything I was like I was a bad influence or a minha but it was
like you think that you were more of a bad influence to them than they were to
you or there was it was just a whole thing you was just because usually I
wouldn't say there's like a trigger in that is like if you're in a group of
people there's always one that start one thing and then the other one starts
another thing but in the end they all end up doing a lot of stuff and in the
end yeah I mean that's the difference is they were able to like party and like
walk away from it and I'm like just wasn't able to do that like I just like
got stuck and like party mode okay so you really got into the party live and
somehow that party life I ended up making you're the rest of your life
stop progressing somehow yeah I just I couldn't like balance it out and like at
first it was like going back to the progressive thing I firstly was like uh
you know like that first like it was like oh I wanna like like I end up
getting less like because I'm like drinking or something and then it's like
but I could still like have a hangover and go skate the next day and like do
like awesome trick so I'm like just not even like worried about it or anything
you know until also like then I only skate like once every
three months or something and like I can't do all the tricks that I think I
can and then you get hurt the year and then before I knew it like like even
when I wanted to ski I couldn't like my body wouldn't do like what what I
thought I was able to do is like anymore you know I like and then I didn't speak
like even when I wanted to say that in it anymore after that you know I was
like you kind of starts feeling depressed with your own detailing can
can these be the the word like he's like I don't know if you ever felt the same I
was never into two drugs or anything like that but I remember when I first
started skating like traveling more and skating I don't know if I can say
skating for a living but yes I was getting paid to skate and I was getting
more and more known for skating then you end up partying a lot more and whenever
you go somewhere there's always someone wanting to pay you a drink or so you end
up partying way too much when everyone just parties on Saturdays and Sundays if
you travel all week you're going to have someone wanting to give you it something
to drink or something else doing every single day of the week and then what
happens is that the next that you tried to skate and your body doesn't work the
same way so with me what I can kind of start feeling was like I ended up having
my own comfortable tricks and it was my way to go out to live with it so it's
like there was a few tricks that I could do no matter what but in the end I end
up losing some of the stuff that I used to do before I don't know if you ever
felt like this but then with time you start losing more and more stuff and you
start feeling frustrated with your skating did you ever felt like
frustrated with your skating like probably that's what you were saying now
is like you started skating less and less and less and then you started
feeling that he couldn't even do your own comfortable trick so that yeah yeah
but it was weird because it went like cycles like all of a sudden in like 2011
that I could like do tricks all of them again and then like two years later like
it was like even more before but now it's like I I finally get
it now like it's like you have to actually like treat it like a learning
process like you do anything else like rather than just like go try a Royale
and go try a Royale again and don't think about like what you did wrong and
like how you're like dude I just like and it actually like study it and you
need to adjust to it like just like you said cuz like a lot of things change
them like skates change body changes your mind changes like the reasons why I
do a change so in the end it's it's like you said like you need to adapt into I
don't know but what's your relationship with skating do you still skate the I
saw like a video of you a few months ago with those flying eagle three-wheeled
skates the question before going into those big
wheels things is do you still have any aggressive skates do still go to the
park every now and then or these two you're like more like a rail skater but
do you still skate like that every now and then yeah I did both you
know like I would you know like I was like like when I progressively like got
out of it and I got like bigger and bigger and like that I was like gained a
lot of weight and then uh where I just like didn't skate at all like how I
wanted to so I just like you know when I didn't start losing weight I was like
you know I wonder when I'm going to be able to skate again because like it's
like when I'm trying to when I'm trying to do that for my exercise it's like
hurting my knees like what yeah and like I can't handle it so it's like I had to
like I had to ride my bike to lose weight for a while you know but once I
got down like enough so that I could actually like skate without like hurting
like really bad like from my own weight then I started like rolling on like the
I found some like 80 millimeter salman's at a thrift store like 4 by 8
so you end up buying the Sullivans case again huh yeah that's good yeah and so I
started skating almost for a while like just you know a couple miles here and
there like just and I was like starting to like get like my movements back like
and I was you know thinking like REI might be able to try like aggressive
again you know now and like I just because I meant like you know I never
really thought I'd like quit you know like I mean I never admitted to myself
that I could really you know I know I feel like I already had picked up some
salman's at that point you know some this guy in France I think or Germany or
something and so I already had some aggressive skates on deck at that point
so yeah I started like just rolling around like trying to find out where the
sessions were like in Orange County and stuff and I was like starting to get a
little momentum on that you know like starting to get back into the groove of
things just kind of doing both you know like because I like distance skating
like I like it for like partying and exercise and like I've what I really
like more than anything is like blending the two like making it like kind of a
hybrid thing where it's like in the scene from everyone you know and they're
like jumping up on on the ledge and then jumping into the street like it's where
you're like this is the feeling of just cruising around and being able to do
tricks but at the same time rolling right yeah like power boiling yeah I
think like most of us that grew up in the same era skating we we were used to
skate before they're like really really tiny wheels we were used to skate that
used to roll like when you first started you used to just skate right before
starting doing tricks you used to skate yeah yeah and I was like but then in the
early 2000s everyone that started skating in the early 2000 of the kids
all they knew just grinding so it was like skating for five
six meters into a ledge and grind the ledge and then skate the other way back
or the same in a rail yeah but if you grow up into 90s you were
used to skate used to just go to a launch ramp there was no quarter pipe a
lot of times before the launch ramp you need to skate to the launch ramp but
then it was a different thing or a lot of people are losing it because of the
2003 of skating is just like skating 5 meters before the ledge and that was it
that was the skating back then so I'm happy that what somehow the whole thing
is changing and like we these big wheels thing and I was really happy when I when
I saw your thing with a flying eagle skate how did the whole spine Eagle
skates thing happen did you did you bought the skate did they gave you the
skates why did you thought about zooming
something with it um I just got the pitch from Jeff one
and he does the finding like acting yeah I know yeah so he just like I knew him
from college he was in Santa Barbara in the same city at that time around 2000
when I was in college up there so I met him when he was like photographing the
local life Santa Barbara guys and stuff and I just
knew him from like way way before and he put out has been with my element from
from the thrift store I was like you know cruising around in the ditches and
doing some stuff and he's like we should get you on some like some newer more
modern kit yeah that's cool and you still got you still been skating him or
not done often yeah um where I moved to in Washington for a lot of hills so I'm
like trying to get some some good a downhill like that's wick it happen you
know don't you feel like the frames are a little bit too short for down hills
when you're like short friends doesn't it - like super nervous for the skates
yeah yeah so they told ya that's what makes me feel okay because there
like I just I feel like I'm up there and I'm just like rolling like yeah you know
you're not scared of the booth touching and then back I love that Julie but I
really like before I like I like to hit the I like to hit like the spines and
like the hips that tapers like at the end of the session like after I've been
sessioning for like 45 minutes or something and then just throw them on
and just do a couple airs for like 10 minutes and it's just like dude you're
all warmed up and you just hit the transition like crazy
that's Sikh so the 2017 Dileep really loves transitions again now maybe you
could go to the AIC to go to a sa Pro no I should try so how often do you still
skate Billie well I also do a skate now because like you said kind of like for a
while you weren't really skating but it seems like you've been on trying it a
lot more right yeah now I'm skating about once a week now I'm trying to get
more at yeah that's really Sigmund I'm absolutely a be like that's cool and you
have like a whole crew that skates with you or when you go out to skate by
yourself right now but alright so I'm like I don't meet those guys at the
skate park sometimes you know but I'm like just trying to find like random
weird stuff right now like just because like I do like getting the skate parks
to but it's just like I'm trying to do a bunch of different things that work yeah
okay let me make you a question who's your favorite scary nowadays when you
look on like social media stuff or when you look I don't know on the internet
there's not that many magazines I compared to compared to what it used to
be that used to like see daily bread and you used to watch like a video like a
DVD or before there was even a VHS or whatever yeah who's your favorite all so
many I can't really say I have a favorite because there's like so many
good peers the rasca brought girls like really sick
used to be on used to be on sanity med in the same time as you right
he was maybe it was still I am I think it was an m1 Senate when you were still
in Senate probably yeah I think he was on k2 and Senate but he was probably
just yeah you might have been just never meet the rest of the team or something
like that and any other I alas the last like Senate will that I had I never even
like saw like a so those reals or anything like so yeah I was like I
wouldn't be surprised how many Senate fields did you got I was looking
yesterday I was trying to do my my homework because I didn't remember of
any of your Senate Rules I was looking around for Billy prison Senate Rios I
didn't remember like in my head so I started looking for it and I I saw it at
the STRs skate from Salomon Kim came with those with those bluish logo
whatever but did you have did you add any other pro model from uh there was
another blue like another blue one like right after that or whatever and then
there was a person of like um yellow and black and that was the one they'll never
good yeah oh good one question what do you think
of skating nowadays like not even what we were saying about like the big wheels
or anything like that like have you ever thought how different it is for like a
pro skater nowadays it's like you come from error that you skate and that was
it someone would eat you up to go to a competition they would pay for your own
travels and all that stuff and the scale is nowadays like most of the times they
need to pay from their own pocket to go to an event or to for travel most of
them not everyone of course but they need to do prove
themselves they need to market themselves like with the social media
and like most of them are able to edit their own videos or at least they're
able to do yeah they need to on the instagrams and stuff like that
did you thought about it how different it is yeah it's not but it's just hard I
guess that I mean that's awesome is there able to do that like some of them
like Jeff Phillips like super-sick yeah but uh it's just I don't know that's
like I couldn't do it you know I can't do it now but that's you know it is what
it is like I mean everything in the whole world is like revolves around
social media right now anyway so like did you edit your own video did you edit
your own that fly an eagle video was it edited by you or you give the clips to
someone else to edit I gave it to someone else that I was like really
wanted it to be like a certain way and he listened to me about it
that's cool and you were into music like electronic music and stuff on it so you
used to make your own music or no just be jiaying like just met like matching
records I really like matching records like just it's like a science art but
and like yeah I remember it was one of the questions that some
people made on Facebook did you chose the music on your vg8 profile that
Gangstar song no it was a it was at first we really wanted to use this DJ
name like cool Keith mm-hmm and it was like a flower is like I see the light is
it shiny to Brett he's and there's like a little kid like this is like the
chorus like and I don't know it's like this thick
like cool key foam but we couldn't get the rights to that and then for some
reason they put that one on and it was just like ended up being like my calling
order nothing buddy you said something really cool right now so they used to
need to get the rights for those for the songs used in the VG videos is that it
yeah Paul Dave pain yeah I can want him to
get the right from everything I mean not everybody I didn't use like one of only
ones that like was like wanted to like do that it has like means to hold out
and do that like so he would use like tracks from his brother and like you
know here we get people get them stuff to use sometimes too but that's that's
really really cool because a lot of people always like I think a lot of
people think that back then no one thought about it no one would think
about it and I know that some people had problem with your musics and music they
use and they got sued and stuff like that I know that 5050 got a problem with
the same song that they use I think was on a farmer profile but it's cool that
you say that so people would be aware of it so you are thinking about your Philip
it made as a question on Facebook every sin that it was asked why Savannah
why was the venire favorite trick yeah was it your favorite trick yeah there
was a time when I work you know like it I guess it's not my favorite part about
that trick and what made it my favorite trick is that it's like you go you go
from rolling forward and you're kind of like spinning on the rail and you do a
360 and you end up forward again like where it's like I just reload you
Whittaker yeah yeah like you go from over to forward and there's a grind in
the middle and you and you're like glowing in the real good gliding on the
room I love that I love tricks like that where it's like you you're gone wrong
and you turn on you turn over and then while your body does like these crazy
rotations like what you were doing grind the whole time like up I like that a
while let's see now the other question was do you call it and that one would be
a you would call it a Savannah right would you call the other one a true spin
backside Savannah or an ally or an alley-oop unit unity the one that
everybody called us and our callback that I like unity okay so for us event
is like it's a 7d ru backside unity is that it yeah okay that is the one and
only Savannah so if you say it needs to be like that because you were the master
of it yeah it's always the same people are or what you're giving the room and
you're giving the rules you have the right to give the rules if you can do it
without the frame touching like you did it you could I don't know how you did it
but you do it you used to do it with just the boot sometimes I don't know how
the frame didn't touch on the trick ya know it's like I can't record do that
anymore maybe I didn't know if you can even do
it with those three wheels kids now if you did just on the boot I wish it so
hard to actually get all the way down on a boot like from like 125 millimeters
like wow yeah ever seen that guy tree tree Runnels if ya likes I don't know
how he does that you can do like full tour eggs and Toric's and I'm still
waiting on the PUD slide so let's see a trick I know you're going to listen this
so if you listen to these I'm waiting on the first slide on the 125 come on oh
you got it okay so you have some questions here and from all your section
from what from there was this guy John Lee from from the UK es is from all your
sections which one was your favorite one which one did you like the most of
yourself uga for sure
about everyone by far - I like that truth being kind right in the end I was
like somehow like a game-changer right yeah I don't know I just I felt really
good about the true Spinelli mafia just for the same reason what I just
explained about Savannah you know it's like just rolling forward like all I ask
and like with a little ally machina in the middle and then end up rolling
forward again yeah I was sick - like the way you used to do it was crazy because
the way you used to do that those truths me tell you my kids you used to do it as
the far side thing like full commitment it was like right I don't know if you
used to think of an alley fish right but you used to go straight into the alley
of fish Renaissance it was crazy then we used to do this yeah and always
with the grab that used to look super sick cana still the trip in a loop
monkeys thank you uh yeah I mean like I'm
getting crisping mises more comfortably so that I could eventually get there and
I think I'll get that a lot inner then I guess the LA Fishman
what skates are you skating right now that which aggressive skates the US Oh
Brendan Campbell Colin and sick you use the white bodies or without the white
bodies those plates I had the white boys on was on the Shred tour for the out of
this is not and I felt like earned someone else so I'm like I just flip for
carbon fold on I'm like waiting leaders Statham with the Carters boner
I remember that those Salomon skates when you put the white bodies they
become like completely different you lose that feeling of grinding with the
skates because you're running so far from your food there's way too much
plastic and like when you do like a backslide or a tort kind of feels like
you don't need to bend your food anymore and I don't know seeing the way that you
use the skate must be super weird like such a wide-body like they call it
so yeah it just puts my foot in the wrong group like it wasn't like grew up
in her eyes but now I have another question here you you remember Clark
Kirkman nah okay there's this guy he was actually really really good it's like I
think he used to be in Woodward East a lot I don't know where he actually lives
but was he made a question which was was there any basic trick that is to scare
you a lot was there any basic trick that you were
scared of like with me I used to be scared of sold like I could do like a
back savanna not a back savanna and I said it so it I used to be had to do
like a true spin back side dignity like on a 20 stair rail but if I would need
to sole it I would struggle it but was there any treatment that for you
yeah I never really did fish friends or Macchio
because I would always like every trick that I did I feel like I knew way to get
out of it without like falling or like getting any chin or anything except for
like a fish brain like if I missed I would just slam my chin like so hard and
like my other because my other hands like going for a drive I grab or
whatever like I have no like protection like to like get out of it um like fully
committed and I just like I never want the fish brain like I mean I always
wanted to do them but I never felt like jumped me on the one like confident
rails or ledges or booth everything I hate legends like just in general I hate
wedges like but used to be good in it don't you just like I think you were one
of the first ones that I've seen doing like an ollie top sold on ledge like
like jojoba yeah that's super frightening though it's like man I even
when I did those tricks that I just remember thinking out like how dangerous
or worse and I know it's commitment uh yeah you really need to come up to those
one and then there's a these guys from from Germany's name is
yen yen scrivener es is what was your like it says the five best memories that
you have like we don't need to number like to give a top five like what was
the best memories that you had from the Senate days you can and I wouldn't even
limit it to the Senate days which are which are like your best memories from
skating if you if you had to to remember of something which was the best moment
that moment that you ever lived related to skating yeah best moment yeah I know
it's a hard one because like where's the one who did it for so long and traveled
so much and all that there must have been like five the best moment let's
let's leave it to one probably just because I have to just pick one there's
no one but just watching Aaron when the London knit like was just or maybe it
was one in a essay I think and it was just it was crazy know somebody just
watch just watching Aaron do okay yeah I like it's still crazy to think that we
are in 2017 and in my opinion is still probably one of the best transition
skaters ever you see like a lot of guys like you know the Roman abroad a and all
these guys are really really good really really seeking skatepark and being able
to do like 1260s and double flips and all that but somehow Aaron used to have
used to that's something that you don't see it still like I don't know it just
I remember seeing those a essay contest on TV and seeing and doing 540 transfers
like still you don't see people doing them nowadays so just you must have been
like seek to hang out with Aaron the way
engine zippers the difference is when you watch all that stuff on TV and watch
all that stuff on video and you end up becoming like a Aaron Feinberg banning
us you're just like oh man he's so good but you still don't even know how good
it is until you skate with him in person and you watch them do all that stuff
like first try yeah I know I I know exactly what you mean then like a lot of
times like you see a trick on the video and then when you see the spot in real
life like did you really did this here it's just sometimes in in TV or TV or on
the video it makes sense but then when you get there just it's anybody anybody
who's seen Aaron scale in person knows little particles I've seen Aaron scale a
few times and I've seen Aaron skate like the first time was in lausanne in 98 I
think yeah in 98 there was when he first got into Salomon so the whole original
Salomon team was there and I remember it was still it was the year after you won
yes it was just way ahead of everyone like and it was cool like it was cooked
I remember when everyone was skating like baggy pants it was like just
kidding casual like Levi's whatever it was did you ever see that one did you
see that one ad where he's gonna like the Senate Sox like all hiked up and
it's just like it's hilarious I'm just kind of like I feel like that is like
green and white like Senate Sox like all hiked up and it's just like it's like
before he really blew up like huge like it was like right after he won the X
Games but like wasn't as huge as the ended up being you know mm-hmm it was
too like that so good I haven't seen that one I don't remember seeing the one
I got a gooood but it might be hard to find it now yeah
okay let me see what else I like I had this guy probably don't remember
there was these guys from the UK my quilling my quill and it was asking do
you remember you and Santiago skating completely drunk in in Paris after two
young British guys bang your hotel room like for you guys to go skate and I
would like to forward you guys just getting through Paris oh yeah I remember
something like that but I didn't know it was Paris hi there was too many of those
days back then oh yeah I remember one night particularly when we got kicked
out of the hotel and we were like skating around like some more like super
drunk but and I was talking to somebody on Instagram about that so I don't know
if that's the same guy but I didn't know it was Paris and yeah do you still drink
or do to drink and often not I'm worth drinking now that's cool yeah and you
feel like your life changed like I don't know like oh yeah I mean that was like
that was like before I could do anything I knew that that's what I had to do like
just because like once once that change happened where it changed from like I
didn't want it and so I wasn't kidding - I wanted to escape but I physically
wanted wasn't able to see so I knew like I had to stop that like all kind of like
loosely enough I was ever gonna like try and stay like that would have to be the
first step like no matter what mm-hmm oh forget you what type of drinks you used
to drink I started really like beer mostly just
just a lot of beer like everyday yeah that that makes you happy yeah
yeah okay let me see what else I got here give you a second here okay do you
know those guys mushroom blading from Canada yeah what do you think of what
they do have you been following their stuff or even yeah I know that you
listen to the young skate talk and the young is right now into big wheels thing
a lot like yeah what do you think of these type of scaling no that is the way
that everyone is going with this like not even just a decent skating but
like even the trick skating that people are doing like those mushrooms letting
guys and everyone else knows the super stick I love it I don't understand how
people don't like it I think it's freaking awesome because like those in
my opinion those two guys there's a one fit like changed everything and made it
like actually popular so that people would actually want to make those type
of ufs frames to where you can make your scape do big wheel stuff like nobody
would even want to do that I don't think without those guys you mean the mushroom
bleeding goodness yeah I mean it for me personally that's definitely true
because I mean I've been following those guys on Facebook I don't know how long
but just because mushroom bleeding to me was like a thing before their podcast
like this you know and to them too because I thought in a little
description I got from like nickriddle or whatever you know mm-hmm
but um yeah I was just thought of it as like the wait Dominic scape and Nick
wriggle skates like just like weird like liquid like random like stuff like weird
just blows kind of tricks like was mushroom blading you know to me and so I
was following that page and I was just like oh yeah those guys like mushroom
blading to do that's cool you know and then like the more other videos like
started to like come out like you know big wheels gone I was just like what is
this or whatever you like just like eventually like it got to
where I'm like do these guys like are like messing around but like what
they're doing is like freaking super hard you know that's then like that's
really sick that so you what are you telling me like just as a proof of
everything that you've been saying is like you you weren't skating back then
but you were still falling whatever they were doing and you were like getting
pumped about it yeah I've always been a fan of skating even when I you know
didn't do whatever I didn't do or you know I always followed it like I don't
always know who like the top guys are or whatever but like I should like unfriend
little rollerbladers on Facebook or whatever so like when people are sharing
content so check it out you know it's like ooh that's cool yes you said
something cool for me now and I want to make you a question that I usually make
to everyone that I made this interview it you said you are friends with a lot
of roller bladers do you rollerblade or do you inline skate I know that in
America most of the people call it rollerblading but yeah do you think well
I don't know like what's your opinion about DC qm1 I guess kind of the same as
like John where it's like people don't know what you're talking about even if
they they recognize the word inline skating is like it just takes from like
a extra second longer or or or you might have to give them an extra sentence of
explanation rather than if you just say rollerblading no Sparkle and like it's
just kind of like there was kind of like a weird time where like that happen to
any where like all of a sudden just one day like everybody around Southern
California just started calling or rollerblading like because you know
their act of calling it aggressive skating because it was just like why are
we calling it aggressive skating like we're just like rich rollerblading to
like just randomly one day people just started calling it rollerblading instead
of getting a it is where it was like I don't know if
you saw the video that I made like week or two ago something like that and there
was like all the main events like in the 90s were they used to be called inline
skating and then suddenly like just like it said people started calling
rollerblading and it's even weird that there was like an interview it with Arlo
and in the same interview he says they were they were interviewing him about
the X Games the inline skating event and then his Issei is rollerblading but even
like a few months ago like like one year ago probably when was the first Nitro
Circus the the the Nitro games they made an interview with with Chris FA like in
the end because it was the winner and in the same interview he says inline
skating and then a few words later it says rollerblading so in my opinion the
only problem here it doesn't need to be relevant or inline skating or whatever
it's just when we call it different names you know like for a kid starting
if you say inline skating at all wedding just like you said that they might know
they might not know that we're talking about the same so yeah that's where I
see a problem if you can call it but anyway just wanted to know what's your
opinion about it
it's just simplicity just to keep it simple yeah makes sense to me
oh good okay so it's 6 a.m. here we've been talking for about an hour I think I
think we're going to call it four for this interview you happy with it is
there anything that you would like to say or that I didn't uh um oh yeah
because the one person asked me if I was gonna be working on an edit so yeah yeah
I'm working on edit right now and I really really would like to find
filmer so that I could work on like a longer edit like four to six minutes
anybody that's sick watch the I can put it out they'll put it out there and try
to get a filmer for you I would like to release that video if you want I'll like
to whenever you publish it I'll try to push it a little bit too we cool yeah
that's cool so let's put it all this there's anyone listening to these living
in the Washington area if you want to film with Billy prison and make like a
comeback at it you want to make it like Street skating or you want to mix a
little bit of everything yeah most mostly mostly true scary yeah
okay you got to do some of those savannas without the frame touching then
we do 125 walk that's performance together to get
somebody to work on a project with you that has to be a long trick that's cool
let's try to put it out then let's see someone in that area is there do you
know about a lot of skaters or about some skaters in that area skating or
yeah yeah there's a lot of skaters or area for sure that's cool oh good let's
make it happen then okay so like I was saying and for those of you who
listening to this and don't know so there's like a nine hour difference
between Washington and South Africa where I am right now so right now it's
6:00 yeah it's 6:00 a.m. I had to wake up
around 4:30 to make these interview with Billy
and it's 9:00 9:00 p.m. is that it uh yep
quarter past 9:00 in in Washington so thank you Billy so much for taking the
time to do this I appreciate a lot of people will be pleased to listen to you
and to ask some of your opinions and hopefully like you said that there's
some things that you're probably not that proud about or not you did it it
doesn't matter so okay people is going through the same
probably yeah a bikini outfit before it it's good to talk about I'm glad to get
a chance to actually say my side of it a little bit and I'm really glad that I
could come on here with you I was really stuck when you hit me up about it so I'm
really I really appreciate this man you're like like I said before I started
this by saying that you used to be like I did a lot of favorite skaters but for
a long time for a long time I used to see that video part for way too long and
having that that music that that gangster sounded like a my Walkman my
non-stop you know what I gave you the headphones so I yeah Christian app is
big horny section I think I know exactly what that is like with that I remember
skating with the big s walkman on my pocket with that song it was just way
too cool and like those truth being kind runs it took me so long to get them and
even like true my Kiyo's the two top passes that you said the one with the v
elements the white ones I saw first I remember seeing a gif of it I don't
remember what video was it was it as peonage probably espionage I remember
seeing just a little gift of of that true top acid and going out and tried
and like how how the hell does if it I didn't even knew the name of it with
like her like he spins the true spin away and that is like a top side I said
it wouldn't make sense to me and the way I did it because you didn't really put
any effort into it somehow it felt like you said just like a 360 with your feet
somehow sliding in between something like super super sick so thank you so
much for helping the progression of this port and we're still there and related
to it for like a lot of people let's say that you quit and these and they're like
I think someone that ever been that much into this will never be able able to
quit even if you're not doing it on a daily basis you like your heart is still
so that's all it matters yeah that's how I feel well oh you're on my back
really it was really nice talking to you man huh so thank you so much really
I'll stick with you and let's try to find you someone to film like 2017 video
part okay nice stay skating win cheers okay clearly and that was it I'm like
super super stoked - Eddie's conversation like I said with one of my
childhood heroes disability prison pro for Salomon pro for Senate like I said
he was never able to make it to it and the aasa' pro but and i think if you
were skating in the 90's you remember his name
billy prison so you still out there skating
he's right now trying to find someone in the Washington area to help him film
something so it would be quite cool I wish I was in the area I would be the
one for sure trying to help this guy and try to film something I'm trying to push
him a little bit to get more even more into it so if you're in that area if you
can do that if you can help him a little bit with that that would be super sick I
would love to see it for everyone else listening to this even if you're not in
a Washington area thank you so much for for listening to these and that's it if
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