Sharin: so if there was someone trying to discover reading through nature, or books
that marry the theme of nature and literature, what would you recommend be there starting point
Dia: I would say start with something as simple as this by Shel SIlverstein, it's called the
Giving Tree.
It's a picture book, it's very simple.
It's something a child can read and a grown up can read.
I want more grown ups to read it because that the lessons in this book are unbelievable.
Dia: i think they would come in great use even in adult life.
Like what's really beautiful about this book is that there is a tree and the tree
is best friends with a little boy.
And the little boy spends a lot of time with the tree while he is a boy.
Swings from the branches, eats it's apples, they play hide go seek.
And then the boy gets older and his visits to the tree become infrequent.
And it's a story about a relationship between the tree and the boy and how the tree's
life purpose is to give this boy happiness.
Sharin: wow, so poignant, so lovely Dia: it's beautiful, it's one of the simples
stories ever written but it's so beautiful.
Sharin: that's nice
Dia: it's my favourite book to point anybody towards.
infact I actually want to make a film on this.
Like a short animated, because i think more people now like to watch stuff
so maybe it will help people get through it.
But it's special.
It's really really special.
Sharin: so i infact read a book recently by Helen Macdonald called H is for Hawk.
It's really...so you were talking about geographical boundaries not existing.
So Helen macdonald's father was an award winning photojournalist
and he made a career
out of shooting hawks.
And her father passed away and as a way of grieving his absence, she decides to adopt
a hawk and train that hawk.
So when she lived on the outskirts of Cambridge, in the countryside, she would just let the
hawk free but also train it to keep coming back.
And at some point she starts associating her vision with the Hawk's vision.
Whatever he was flying through, all the cities and the villages started merging.
She did it over three years because goshawk, the kind of hawk she was training was the
most difficult hawk to train.
They are just naturally very wild beings.
They don't like to answer to somebody asking them to do something, which is like a lot
of us.
So the kind of stuff the hawk saw, she kind of imagined herself seeing.
And it spans many seasons, so she talks about, earth, water, wind, fire, also ice.
Anuya: not heart?
Sharin: oh my god
Anuya: I've already made this joke before,
but you even said it in the same order!
You wanted me to say heart!
Sharin: this is Captain Planet, strangely, ironically loved.
Anuya: but we should talk about captain planet.
Watching that show as kids, and it really did create a regard in me for the environment.
You've seen Captain Planet?
Dia: no Anuya: Cartoon Network, all 90s kids.
Dia: I didn't grow up watching...
Anuya: TV?
Sharin: well done Anuya: cause she was playing outside.
So me, i had the misfortune of sitting at home and watching lots of cartoons, and one
of the cartoons I watched and loved was Captain Planet.
And the whole message of Captain Planet was to...
Every episode had one lesson about the environment.
His villain was Captain Pollution, like his alter ego.
Dia: nice Anuya: and earth, fire, wind, water, and heart.
So there is this little kid whose superpower is heart bechara, he was bullied by all the
other kids.
Dia: I have never watched it.
Is it available somewhere?I'd love to watch it.
Anuya: DVDs and maybe on youtube yeah, or you know torrents
Anuya: so incidentally you know.
Since we are talking about this, there is a theory that Game of Thrones is one big parable
on Global Warming Dia: could be
Anuya: yeah, ice and fire Dia: i feel like the Batman series is that as well
Anuya: really?
Dia: yeah i think it gives a lot of insight on where the world is headed and what are the fights we are fighting
yeah because the way Gotham city looks, it is really a representation of what we are doing to this planet.
Where we are going as human beings Anuya: the children of the forest, the White
Walkers, so there is a lot of Dia: and one of my favourite movies is Avatar.
It's one of the most beautiful films made on kind of reiterating that message.
That nature is all giving
That you are a part of it.
And we take, take, take everything and never give anything back.
This is what this books is also about.
Sharin: the Giving tree
Anuya: there is this book by a Chilean author
called Isabel Allende, who writes a lot of similar stuff, and she has this book called
CIty of Beasts where this American kid (of course it is an American kid), who goes with
his grandmother who is a writer for a National Geographic like magazine into the Amazon
And they go deeper and deeper looking for this one ancient being so not only do you
discover a lot about the rainforest, but it is a story of indigenous people and their
flora and fauna that they are trying to save
And she uses magic realism with fact of today to showcase what the cost of development is.
And it's young adult, so it can be given to young people and they can start imbibing these things early.
So another really interesting book that gives amazing perspective on the idea of wellbeing
and life, is a book called the Story of Stuff.
It is perhaps, possibly one of the best books written on this world that we inhabit where
we are constantly being told to buy something.
Like somebody selling stuff to you all the time.
Sharin: that is all of American culture Dia: no its even us
Anuya: yeah it's here now Dia: i mean look at it, everything is an advertisement.
Anuya: Story of Stuff can be my life.
It is my life.
Dia: you are telling teenagers that until they get XYZ things they are not cool enough.
You are telling grown ups that until they have the latest mobile, the latest cars.
the latest air conditioner, or the latest whatever, they are not cool enough.
Sharin: it's an economy of peer pressure Anuya: yeah electronic waste is
Dia: and it is an economy created by heightened consumption.
And constantly making people want to consume more.
Anuya: so what is the solution?
What can we, or the people around here, what can we do?
Dia: i can tell you what i do Anuya: tell us what you do
Dia: i feel like my entire life is a dichotomy.
I feel like I'm dealing with a constant state of paradox.
What is this world I'm living in?
Why do I need to have all these things?
So the stuff that I have identified as really, really bad, I have stopped using it as much as possible
Okay, I'll give you an example.
If I would change my car every four years for the sake of status, or the idea that
I need to like oh I am an actor, I have this line of work, I need to seen in a certain way
Those ideas have changed.
Dia: as long as my car works and it's in
good condition, I am not gonna change it.
Yes, it is a diesel engine, and I wish I had an electric car, and I wish electric cars
were priced better in my country but hey I carpool, I will not change my car just for
the sake of change and I will find solutions because I have this brain that is constantly,
actively thinking how to readdress the way I live my life.
So the other things I do, I have replaced all the plastic bottles with glass.
I carry a bottle to work
So even when i'm going for a shoot,
About 6 glass bottles travel with me from home
so I am not using these guys at all.
So that's my way a little bit.
Waste segregation at its source so we don't mix wet and dry waste.
There are so many little things.
I don't know whether that's enough but I do know that when you become actively aware,
then you start seeking out ways.
Like the one thing I really want to change is my sanitary napkin
Anuya: yeah but what are you gonna do?
Dia: we need a sanitary napkin that is biodegradable!
And I don't understand why with all the money in the world and all this innovation,
we can't just make it.
Sharin: one last book I want to talk about, you talked about global warming, I just finished
reading a young adult book yesterday called Love in the Time of Global Warming
Dia: i've heard about this and I wanna get my hands on it
Sharin: it is amazing, so it's basically a tsunami has hit Los Angeles and it's told
from the point of view of one eleven year old survivor who is trying to find a family
but because tsunami has hit, immediately the environment of Los Angeles has shifted to
people who have adapted to live underwater and people who have adapted to live over water.
and there are suddenly giants who are cannibalizing people.
This is like I think, the fact that it's an over exaggeration of what a future could
look like is something we should all be taking seriously as well because I mean our demons
are within us, we are polluting our own environment and we could be the giants who are cannibalizing
people in the end Anuya: I can't think of book but so many
movies have this overriding theme right, there was Intersteller
Dia: absolutely Anuya: then there is, do you guys remember Tera Nova
Terra Nova. you dont remember Tera Nova?
Let's get into the clickbait round before I kill myself
Dia: no no we have to save the world ok?
We will save it Sharin: we are the warriors
Dia: we are the warriors.
Anuya: that makes me very very sad
Sharin: the green crusaders!
So we are just gonna do a quick rapidfire with you.
All about books don't worry, we won't ask about Kareena Kapoor or
Dia: they are all wishing you raid me
Like what is this conversation why are they not
discussing somebody's sex life.
Anuya: correct Dia: or hers
Sharin: like a chain
Anuya: you can discuss my sex life whenever you want
Barbara what?
Dia: cartland.
Shobhaa De, sorry Anuya: we just we have already discussed my
sex life so move on Dia: hey Shobha De is not writing anymore.
Sharin: She is writing columns and getting angry at, i think twitter destroyed her
Anuya: yeah tweeting unfortunate things
Sharin: yeah man Dia: nice ya
Anuya: she fat shamed a policeman Dia: i heard
Anuya: this will go viral Sharin: on this note, clickbait this was clickbait
Anuya: so we'll ask you a bunch of really
quick questions, tell us what are the first things that come to mind okay, everything
is about books, I'll ask one you ask one Sharin: yeah you go first
Anuya: so the world is ending but there is a spaceship coming to save you, you can only
take two books with you, what would they be?
Two books, two whole books Sharin: to survive in the universe
Dia: can I take a blank book?
Like, plain sheets to write on, that would save me.
Umm aah I think I'll take the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Sharin: I love her already, that's it, we are friends now, I love this book, I love Douglas Adams
Anuya: this book keeps coming up in every podcast
Sharin: it is the most amazing book
Dia: it is also one of the most read books in India amongst the reading community.
Do you know how many books people have to sell for it to become a bestseller in India?
Anuya: 2000 Dia: 10,000.
That's nothing Sharin: in a country full of billions, we
can only sell Dia: yeah 10,000 books and you become a bestseller
Anuya: that's what we are trying to remedy with this right now, like that's literally
what we are trying to remedy Sharin: please read guys.
Ride Dia: read!
Anuya: ride Dia: ride too.
We must read and ride
Anuya: but you know what this makes me happy,
im not the only bad joke maker on this botcast.
Ok favourite author 1 Dia: aiyo no ya no no ya
Anuya: ok fine 3 Sharin: no 1
Dia: that's a really impossible question.
It's like asking me what is my favourite movie.
I don't have an answer there is not one. It's impossible.
Ok ok ok ok life defining, life altering book Tuesdays with Morrie
Sharin: ah nice Anuya: Mitch Albom
Dia: Mitch Albom yeah.
I mean he hasn't authored that many books, all of that I know that, that's a book that
can really really shift perspective and do wonderful things
Anuya: okay book that defines you Dia: holy mother
Anuya: rightly said Sharin: well done
Dia: a book that defines me.
Bloody hell, I've never actually actively thought of that, it's a damn good question
Sharin: it's ok, you will try Dia: im trying
Sharin: introspect Anuya: you know for me the problem is that
everytime I think about a book that defines me, the answers I get are like shopaholic
and stuff and then I'm like tu ghar pe baith, kuch kaam mat kar
Yeah she was just talking about consumerism
so which one defines you? You've thought about this?
Sharin: no, I, this is not about me
Dia: no but answer the question I really want to know, I'm very inquisitive
Anuya: I think Hunger Games Sharin: define you
Anuya: which is weird right? But it does.
Sharin: a certain banned book defines me Anuya: you've named band books on this podcast
before, nobody cares if you name banned books, it's okay
Sharin: actually, Satanic Verses defines me Dia: you think?
Sharin: I love that book.
I can read it over and over again a million times over and I will still never be over this book
Anuya: but I also see myself in that conflicted heroine Katniss
Dia: but I see myself in a lot ya, I see myself in a lot of books, I mean, A Thousand Splendid Suns
Anuya: oh I love that book
Sharin: all that suffering Dia: yeah
Anuya: I cried so much Dia: yeah because I feel like if you can go
there, you can go anywhere and feel anything, because my reality is so removed from that,
so removed from that, but if I can feel it in my gut, like inside my being so strongly,
then it represents me.
Sharin: no it is one of those books where you feel ok now the suffering ill end and
there is more and there is more Dia: the Kite Runner did that for me as well.
I mean there are so many books that you just read and you're like.
Wow.
but i don't know if they define me.
Should I say the Secret Garden, for a sweeter definition of me.
Anuya: The Secret Garden yeah Dia: yeah the girl who healed everything through
a little magical garden.
Ok I'll take the Secret Garden.
Happy book, positive book.
Sharin: so continuing with that, what would be your autobiography called
Dia: born free Anuya: no that's taken you can't use it
Dia: The last child in the woods.
That is taken as well Anuya: yeah, didn't you just start the podcast
with this book Dia: the butterfly effect.
Don't tell me now that is also Anuya: ok ok
Dia: I know it's taken, but that's my autobiography yaar
Sharin: I get that the concept of born free is like a concept that seems to resonate a lot with you
Dia: yeah
Sharin: so give her born free na Dia: no give me butterfly effect im happier with it
Sharin: now she wants butterfly effect
Anuya: tarzan
Sharin: you've been warned about these things
Anuya: I didn't make a pun, I just made a joke
Dia: jane was here.
Dia: jane was here. Almost Jane
Anuya: almost jane is a great name.
I think you should write that book.
Dia: almost jane.
The mad max theory Anuya: yeah madmax is actually superb right
Dia: that's exactly what I am talking about.
Good one to leave you with no?
Anuya: so before we melt into puddles Dia: we have already melted into puddles
Anuya: let's, we have come to the end of this botcast
Dia: why is she not perspiring?
Sharin: i don't know Anuya: I don't perspire that much
Dia: like why are we both shining
Anuya: cause I grew up here so
Dia: But this was fun no, it wasn't so bad Sharin: thank you Dia for joining us ya
Dia: a lady from the industry reads and could have a real
Anuya: and talks about things Sharin: and feels things about the environment
Dia: no but we have to change that guys.
This is like a really bullshit perception and I feel very insulted by it not just for
myself but for all the girls and boys in my hood
Sharin: in your hood?
Dia: yeah Anuya: no but also we should all do whatever
we can to save the environment Dia: I am not sure all do but let's not
assume nobody does.
That's what I am saying.
And I don't judge those who don't either.
I really don't and nobody should.
I know you are like, you know champions of book reading and all.
Please read.
You lesser mortals who don't read, you substandard human beings
Anuya: no that's not what we want to do Dia: that is exactly what you do
Sharin: discover new worlds, discover new language
Dia: love it love it learn about it then maybe do it
Anuya: subscribe to our channel Dia: share, like this video, comment and say
nice things about Anuya and Sharin Sharin: and Dia
Dia: no you don't have to be nice to me Sharin: why be nice
Dia: no you don't have to tell them to be
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