You stirred up a lot of people for this election.
You said many controversial things.
The press said I was harsh and rude,
but I don't think I was.
What did I say that was so harsh?
Gyeonggyu, you tell me
something rude I said.
Then I'll explain my reasoning.
What did I say that was rude?
Your entire vibe...
That's not what I meant.
It seemed like you were speaking rudely.
No, that's not the case.
I spoke the facts.
What did I say that was rude?
Old fogey"? Was that so rude?
In Gyeongsang-do, that's not rude.
The press called me rude
because I was too much for them.
Anything they didn't like, they called it rude.
I said I didn't like that Ewha broad.
They said that was rude, too.
- Let me explain that. / - Alright.
When I was a freshman in college,
I came up from the countryside. I was 18.
I had my first group date with Ewha.
With students from Ewha Womans University?
I asked my housemate the day before.
"What do I talk about there?"
I didn't know anything at age 18.
First, I should ask
what high school they graduated from.
Next, I should ask what their favorite movie was.
Third,
I should ask what their favorite book was.
"What's fourth?" "Figure it out after that, fool."
I wrote those questions in order on my hand.
On your palm?
So I asked the girl as soon as I sat down.
What high school did you graduate from?
She said Gyeongbuk Girls' High School.
Gyeongbuk Girls' High School in Daegu
is one of the top high schools in the nation.
We couldn't even look at girls from that school.
We wouldn't dare.
For real.
So when she said she was from that school,
my heart started racing.
I felt like I had hit the jackpot.
For real.
I told her I was also from Daegu.
When she heard that...
The young lady asked
if I'd graduated from Gyeongbuk High School.
I said no.
Then she asked if I was from a prep school.
I said no.
She asked if I was from Daeseong High School.
That's one of the top schools in Daegu.
I said no.
So she asked me what school I was from.
I told her Yeongnam High School.
She stood right up and left.
She left?
You couldn't ask what her favorite movie was.
Those questions you wrote on your hand.
I didn't know that she left.
She stood right up and left.
I figured she went to the bathroom.
So I thought about it.
She asked me my school and left.
And that was the last group date I went on.
After that traumatic experience.
I was 18 years old.
That's why I said that.
When I was a party head in 2011,
I met and talked with Ewha students.
I told that story to be funny.
And I said, "That Ewha broad was nasty."
In the past.
That woman who showed up to the group date.
She left because your school didn't impress her.
You were calling her "the Ewha broad."
They lumped all that together.
That's not what happened.
That's how it sounded.
I thought Ewha students were nasty back then.
But how about now?
I believe they're the future leaders of the country.
I think differently now.
I explained that it was when I was 18 years old.
But they just focus on that one comment.
They put out a report of how
I should make a public apology for what I said.
(Hong Junpyo apologizes for his comment)
It was lumped in with the dishes comment.
You said that doing the dishes is a woman's job.
That's very demeaning to women.
Shouldn't you apologize for that?
We'll give you a chance now.
There's plenty of time left. Please apologize.
I apologize. That wasn't the right thing to say.
Please don't say things like that again.
My wife would keep me
out of the kitchen, saying that
it wasn't the place for a man to be.
That's why I said that.
And they made me sound like I was anti-feminist.
You could've just not said it.
But they asked me.
(Junpyo responds to the questions he's asked)
But you really don't do the dishes, right?
These days, I do sometimes.
(The strong man does the dishes now!)
From time to time.
You were traumatized from that incident?
Not after that.
We're old, and it's just the two of us.
If I don't act right...
She won't feed me.
So I try my best to treat her right.
I hear that she has you on her leash.
Yes. I've been whipped for 40 years.
What kind of husband are you?
You don't have to know that.
Candidate Chu Miae.
You told her that she should go home
and watch her child if she didn't want to work.
I think she was very offended by that.
I think I said that in the National Assembly.
It's a bit awkward between myself and Hong Junpyo.
- Awkward? / - Yes.
He once told me
to go home and watch my child.
What did you say to that?
That my child is all grown up.
I just ignored him.
He never apologized?
I think I said that in the National Assembly.
That was over 8 years ago.
Why did you say that?
She started on me first.
So I told her to go home and watch her child.
I remember saying that.
But I feel bad about it.
(He finally apologizes after 8 years)
(Hong Junpyo apologizes to Chu Miae)
How many times have you made official apologies?
Not that many times.
Demeaning women and "the Ewha broad."
I apologized for those.
Did you apologize about the pig stimulants?
Yes, I did.
And telling Chu Miae to go watch her child.
That's quite a few apologies.
I should apologize for my mistakes.
You should apologize to Chu Miae.
I just did earlier.
- Look into the camera. / - That's alright.
You said some things you didn't have to,
which ended up biting you in the rear.
The same with the pig stimulants.
I wrote that in a book I put out 12 years ago.
I wrote 60 wrongdoings I've committed
over the course of my life.
One of those was the pig stimulant incident.
I didn't do that.
It was someone I was sharing a house with.
And I couldn't stop it.
Politicians blow small things out of proportion.
That's not what I think.
Why couldn't you look at the big picture?
In the case of Obama...
He revealed that he did drugs in high school.
The Republicans attacked him for that,
but what did Americans say?
That he was brave for revealing that.
That's how he overcame it.
But this was something that
I couldn't stop a friend from doing.
Bringing that up during the elections...
Calling me a sexual predator... Gosh...
I can't acknowledge a candidate
who conspired to commit sexual assault.
You're an accomplice to rape using pig stimulants.
We ask Hong Junpyo to drop out immediately.
Hong Junpyo should drop out.
I guess if I drop out,
that would really help you, Cheolsu.
That is unrelated to me.
Drop out immediately.
Do you admit that it was wrong of you?
I apologized for that.
(He's really good at apologizing)
You mentioned a certain brand of washing machine.
That's another big one.
Hong Junpyo's plan for national reformation.
I want to put Korea in a washing machine
for a year and then start the regime.
You want to put Korea in a washing machine.
But many people think
you should be put in a washing machine, too.
I've already been in and out.
You should go back in.
No. I'm totally out. Take a look.
Candidate Hong, you said you've been in and out,
but perhaps it was a broken washing machine.
I use a Samsung washing machine.
I said that without realizing it.
(A slip of the tongue)
I could've said an LG washing machine.
But Samsung sounded more familiar.
You meant you wanted to get rid of corruption.
But for us to hear that...
It sounded a bit excessive.
It was a bit harsh.
Sure.
Some said they were wise words, though.
Remarks like that cause a stir,
but doesn't that hurt you in the end?
You can't get hung up on profit and gain in politics.
When you get hurt,
it's destined, and you can't do anything about it.
Did you ever think as you were
saying that washing machine comment
that you were going a bit overboard?
Not at all.
You're so direct and blunt.
You don't beat around the bush.
What do you think about the way you talk?
That's how you deliver a clear message.
Beating around the bush...
Why do politicians do that?
They want to make a hole they can hide in.
Have you ever considered
being a bit more gentle?
I try to do that.
But if you change your true personality,
you'll die early.
You'll die living like that.
I'll give you a few keywords now.
So hear them out
and respond in your trademark blunt style
with your thoughts on these issues.
What are your thoughts on the comfort women?
- That deal is invalid. / - Pardon?
- It's invalid. / - I see.
It's not something that should be negotiated.
Do you feel the same about Dokdo?
That is our land.
(So simple and clear)
That was nice to hear.
You don't give a long explanation.
Internet trolls?
No need to read their comments.
(A clear answer with no explanation needed)
No need to read the comments.
It looks like I don't need any follow-up questions.
Your responses are so clear and precise.
People will die if they change suddenly.
You sang a lot for your campaign.
Yes.
Why did you sing?
It was out of sheer frustration.
The impeachment and the collapsed parties.
How could there even be an election?
That's why I sang
Come Back to Busan Port" in Busan.
Everyone sang along.
Rather than giving a long speech,
that moment united us all.
In Daegu,
the most iconic politician from there is Park Geunhye.
She was impeached and imprisoned.
The people of Daegu had nobody to rely on.
That's why I sang, "Don't Cry, Hongdo."
(Don't cry, Hongdo)
I'm here. I'm here instead of her.
If you sing in front of thousands,
you all become united in mind.
Right, right.
Did you practice singing before you went up there?
- No, I didn't practice. / - Really?
I pick a song on the spot and sing it there.
So what I'm saying is that
nobody will ever sing for a presidential election
ever again, and it's never been done before that.
I'm the only one.
It was out of frustration.
I couldn't deliver my message.
Nobody would listen.
Everyone was so negative.
I sang to make the election a bit smoother.
That's the only thing I could do.
It's not like I sang because I was happy.
Didn't you say that you'd release an album?
This happened when I was a prosecutor.
I remember it was back in 1993.
Ju Hyunmi was very popular.
Her medleys were popular.
And I used to sing in the past.
My father was a pansori singer.
I don't have my voice now.
But back then, I was singing prosecutor Hong Junpyo.
I got an offer to sing a medley.
You really got an offer?
Yes! I did get an offer back then.
So I went home and asked my wife.
She got so angry.
She yelled at me, so I couldn't do it.
They could've been selling your tape on highways.
Right.
Do you have a favorite celebrity?
These days...
Hyolyn of SISTAR.
She's so good at singing.
Hyolyn...
When I saw Hyolyn on "Immortal Songs..."
I've never heard such amazing renditions
of song remakes.
(When Hyolyn sang Sim Subong's "That Person")
(She gets ready)
(And blasts out a high note)
(Wow)
Amazing vocal range.
When I was head of the Gyeongnam District Office,
I wanted to get SISTAR to perform
at a celebratory music festival.
They're very expensive!
So we got a discount.
- You did? / - Yes. We begged them.
And the people loved them.
I sat in the front row
and clapped along with their singing.
Junpyo, you have many nicknames.
Hong Trump, Strong Man, Hongdozer.
So many nicknames.
What other nicknames do you want in the future?
I don't want any more nicknames.
Starting with Don Quixote, I have so many.
So I don't want any more nicknames.
A lot of people are saying that
the conservative party is in trouble or is ruined.
As the first opposition party candidate,
I'm sure you feel a lot of pressure. How do you feel?
The left and right wings should be stable
for the nation to prosper.
The left-wingers have become fat.
The right-wingers have been broken.
That's why my job
was to restore the right wing so that
the nation can prosper with both wings balanced.
That's what I believe my role is.
I'll try my best at working for that goal.
Alright. How was the interview with me today?
I had fun.
We're going to publish a book
about the things we talked about today.
One of your published books is
"There is No Fear if You Have Convictions."
That's one of your books.
Yes.
What would you call this book?
Just call it "We Like Zines."
(So direct)
In case it doesn't sell well.
Just call it "We Like Zines."
"We Like Zines: Hong Junpyo."
("We Like Zines: Hong Junpyo")
"We Like Zines: A Gentle Man."
I'm not a gentle man.
No, how about this?
What?
"A Whipped Man."
A Whipped Man." Alright.
Don't just be whipped by your wife.
I hope you become whipped by the people.
How about "A Man Whipped by the People"?
Just "A Whipped Man."
Alright.
Let's check out the satirical cartoon.
Artist Park.
You looking convicted today.
(Look forward to conviction and communication)
Gosh...
I look this ugly?
(Hurt)
You should've drawn me looking nicer.
(Slap)
(I tried to draw with conviction...)
(A photo for the book!)
(We had a great time)
(With the whipped man Hong Junpyo)
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