all right so we're gonna wear the the Reds of the home team so they can go
first and and we have about five minutes of
question if they don't get through them all that's okay and just again remember
that you're reading the word for word and then notice I can respond if you
don't not everybody has to respond every question if you have nothing to add
that's fine you can ask follow-ups but you're
staying in the questioning mode rather than the arguing you're wrong about that
okay so you want to start okay very first question how will do your views on
human nature affect reviews on public policies on what policy public policy so
we've written it again how do you do your views on human nature affects your
views on public policy please I inherently believe that all people want
to be successful that all people require purpose and want to feel like they're
good contributors to society and that they want safety and security and one
who loved want to feel valued and so I think that for me the policies that we
as a country put in place should enable everybody to be able to have those kinds
of worthwhile feelings so that somebody who starts at a disadvantage may need a
little bit of help in order to to recognize those very basic human needs
okay the others have you can give you a response and they can also ask
follow-ups but so so in other words multiple people can respond to the same
question so if you think do you want to respond to it as well there's nothing I
can add anything to it right out of them right out of the game yeah yeah then I'm
done but I do have a follow-up yeah so like
I intervene when a participant started to preface his follow up question with a "but."
I'm totally there with you but it did seem you're asking the question that's
not that question it's coming so what about the negative side of human nature
yeah could you just lend a hand upside down okay
negative side of human nature I don't know what that is I really don't I mean
I see negative behaviors that I think are a result of people not getting the
positives met so I think greed and power are reactions to not feeling worthwhile
to not being able to express yourself and feel like a worthwhile person so you
resort to those kinds of things now from a biological point of view we're animals
so we have territoriality we have there are certain traits that we have which
get us into trouble but I think meeting human needs kind of for me erases those
kind of things from having to happen I have to go sit over there
say I'm usually pretty optimistic and I share Lin's perspective for the most
part I do feel though that there are times that people do take advantage you
know let's say on Wall Street could be a good example so I do feel that one of
the roles of government in addition to giving everybody the advantages they
need to be successful is also putting for example some checks in the system so
for example if people are going to take advantage and I could go both ways it
could be the rich Wall Street bankers taking advantage of loopholes in our
system it could also be people buying houses outside of their means and I
think that's a role where government can step in and say you know what even
though people are basically good there's going to be this greed on the part of
the Wall Street bankers and on the part of the people who are going to buy
houses beyond their means and we're going to put policies into place that
prevent for example what we had happened with the whole mortgage crisis ok all
right so a question from your side I won okay so how do you balance the
protection of individual liberties with the common good and it's exemplified for
example by the need for childhood and immunization the schools so read it
again slowly okay how do you balance the protection of individual liberties with
the common good as exemplified by the need for childhood immunization whether
are you saying whether that vaccinations should be mandatory or not erect
in other words should vaccinations be mandatory if we vaccinate in the school
you know protecting the common good in the schools against the parents desire
to do what they feel is best for their child when it comes to
highly infectious diseases like the MMR's I do think those should be
mandatory not in that it that saves both the
individual and the community I think communities that have made that not
mandatory we've seen breakouts of her velum and easels and I think those
things could be very easily avoided by 20th century medicine and I heard for
stuff like that I think it should be mandatory yep
yeah I agree my opinion if you don't vaccinate you shouldn't be allowed to go
I intervene when a blue participant followed up a red answer with a statement, not a follow up question.
to public school I think you're more than welcome to home-school but you know
don't put them out other kids risk them because you feel differently well even
if you're homeschooled you have the right to go sorry yeah you're in the
question yeah yeah I'm the yeah yeah to answer the question directly I think
education plays a major part in that you know the concept of herd immunity a
lot of the you know anti-vaxxers just don't know anything about that
and how you know my child is fine you know they just don't realize there's a
bigger perspective there and then I also agree with him that making it mandatory
across the board for Americans is the wrong way to go but it's the the
government is well within its rights in public services to set conditions for
participation in the public services so you know you must vaccinate your kids
that's a problem you must vaccinate your kids if you wish to take advantage of
the public school system that's it's fine with me
and then I guess a follow-up question would be how would you convince one of
your fellow Reds that vaccinations doesn't of their children does not
interfere with their rights to individual liberty well if it's not
mandated because you're a citizen of America but mandated because you wish to
voluntarily participate in a particular service I don't think there needs to be
too much more explaining on that and that's that I quote my taxes a part of
which goes to public education if I choose not to take that's not what the
social contract is we elect our representatives and whether or not you
voted for the guy that won those are the policy is okay yeah okay so a question
from their friends is there a platform policy of your party and that you
disagree with if so what is it and why do you disagree yeah it's overrated
again
can I change there's a social contract read it as different different question
I just went to the second one but I didn't oh well they're gonna be prepared
for that one yeah I'm sure you can pick whatever question you want okay so what
end should public policy a man equality of opportunity or equality of outcome
and why again slowly yeah yeah yeah yeah to what end should public policy aim
equality of opportunity or equality of outcome and why
you know that's similar to a question we were thing but but I think in our little
discussion we talked about those policies should be geared to those
people only who start with a disadvantage being physical or racial or
housing or what have you that if there is a blatant barrier to the happening
that that's a place that that we think public policy would be affected to equal
that that playing field now does it erase all of the abuse that may occur no
and so with that comes some monetary and some pretty tough policies about if it
isn't I mean I remember reading about the VA paying $1,000 for toilet paper I
mean what happened from that it went on and it went on and it went on so I don't
think it's so much the policy as our inability to monitor it and and police
it for lack of a better term yeah and then more it's like the razor point of
the question and you know what you described is what it is but is that
policy you're describing a policy toward equality of opportunity you know those
that started lower need to be brought up to the same place and give them the same
chance or is it an aim toward those who started lower need to end up at the same
place as those that started higher yeah well there's results and that was the
question okay now to question an opportunity so say more about that yeah
yeah same one I see this opportunity we know that that everybody does not start
out at the same way along the same families in the same economic structure
whatever and sometimes they need a little help to get started but it
doesn't mean that everybody to end up at the same place no universe
exactly the goal but the opportunity should be there and I want to elaborate
I have something that I personally happened to me which is one of my
fellows applied for one of these affirmative opportunity scholarships and
they asked her to identify if she was black or American native whatever and
she's not but she comes from poverty she comes from a lot of mental illness in
her family and it really made me rethink and I'm totally in agreement with the
opportunity I think we also have to be sure we don't have cookie cutter
categories no because everybody is different and everybody has a story and
the goal should be to raise up everyone in terms of the opportunity that they're
given even if they don't fit into a nice little you know box that labels them by
their skin color or their you know and can I add I think where we've missed the
boat in the past is that the process through which everybody goes for that to
happen given those loves has been so controlled that there is very little
individual responsibility baked into it so that as a person enters a program
that gives them an advantage the question is where's the onus on them to
do it you know it are there things they should be doing that we shouldn't put in
the policy which might account for those being successful and those not being
successful but if the opportunity as Judah said is there then the onus is on
the individual I was also wondering this kind of ties back to the first one a bit
is this assistance that should be offered is this something that should be
given or taught or a little bit of both if that makes sense
I think it takes many forms do you mean like whether it should be just given or
earned not necessarily earned but you know should you teach someone to do
something a different way as opposed to just giving them something to equal yeah
yeah I would teach rather than give okay it's like the you know if you give a man
a fish he eats for a day but if you teach him how to fish you can eat for a
lifetime okay alright so the question I have a
question Judith extent okay what is the proper venue for for reds to disagree
with the leadership that are gonna party okay so read em again what is the proper
venue for reds to disagree with the leadership of the Republican Party or
the could you clarify that a little bit like are you asking like should those of
us that disagree be protesting or blogging or yeah it's one of your
thoughts about okay well I can share what I do about it
and if that would be helpful I tend to spend my weeknights down at the local
pub and Franklin and there's you know lots of loud conversations it's pretty
much where you go to talk about religion and politics with strangers and you know
in my personal life if I start by just you know trying to be a helpful you know
person to have credibility there where I'm not coming at it with like I'm all
about politics and this is my gig I try to just be a good person individual
so that whatever I say it's coming from a place of you know this is what I think
about it how about you rather than you know here's my soapbox and I'm gonna
stand on it and I've you know on my own side I've you know personally seen a lot
of success in converting individuals from various types of extremism or
reductionism and examining our own principles and if enough people if we
reach a critical mass of those that are willing to examine their own site and
talk about it honestly with other people I believe that the leadership that we
elect will reflect those changes and our personal views and in our you know our
own desire to want to be good and not to just be a team player
and so you know if I'm given a platform you know if one of my albums pops or you
know for whatever reason I have a more national platform then I'll be able to
use that to you know address it more directly but if I don't you know I think
I do a lot more good having a conversation with as many people as I
can every day and then by necessarily going to social media and blasting my
views I'm sure there are a culture I think is for me very similar to what an
ideologue Andrew Breitbart had expressed is how politics is really
down streaming from culture and for for people in my own party I think I think
that we've pulled out of the arts to a point that we don't know how to express
ourselves the way we used to and us being able to not just blog but even
feel confident enough in in our view point to not necessarily
care about how much resistance we might get but just wanting to be heard whether
it's being a contributor to a small new site to creating small short videos film
shorts it's like even creating paintings or getting into poetry more often or
theater art I think I think if we felt more confident in in interjecting
ourselves into the arts would be an easier way for us to change the way our
own party thinks about a particular policy or a particular viewpoint I think
I think the more we're able to spread our ideas wider gives them the
opportunity to see that there's a lot more different viewpoints should I want
to see if John has anything to add on this nothing in particular other than
actually conversing with people I don't for example I don't think if something
is recorded it's hard to you know interpret that in a way I guess I'm
trying to say is if you can actually go back and forth with someone as opposed
to using interpreting what has been said especially with you know online and
stuff when someone's typing it can be proceeding much differently based on
what you you know feel about that person as opposed to what they actually mean
so you know if that's entirely irrelevant but it sure sounds yeah do
you think their protests like the women's March and like
assembling outside of the congressmen senators offices on Western Avenue with
signs do you think that those are viable ways to show your you know the other
your party or your elected leaders what your feelings are and if not what would
be a better way for Blues to do it their blues are peaceful protest is can be
extremely effective I think even even for some on my side of the aisle that
may be overly expressive yelling profanities or blocking off streets or
cutting off highways I don't think are effective I fit its kind of going back
to the the squeaky wheel gets all the oil and sometimes that's not always the
best thing that we okay to be the one that pops off and everything falls apart
but I do think that protest is one I think I think there's I think there's
other more effective ways that that can be quieter well not necessarily acquire
but easier to hear and and I'm very open to the ability to have this type of
dialogue more often instead of just people standing in a line with the Syst
like read my sign this is what I think it's like that's that's such a small
bullet point of who the person actually is and I think this is way more
effective than standing in a line and expecting
everyone to agree with you
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