Hello Fantastic Beast fans!
In the British Ministry of Magic, we saw their Death Chamber with the Arch of the Veil.
At MACUSA, Tina and Newt were nearly executed in theirs.
Have we already caught a glimpse of the French Ministry of Magic's death chamber?
I'm Susan Şipal with Fantastic Secrets Behind Fantastic Beasts to bring you the clues.
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Before we get started, please notice that this video may be a spoiler for some.
While this one has a couple of references to information from set interviews, they were
authorized by Warner Brothers.
However, with the level of detail and the amount of information we now have, I'm marking
all videos, and the comment sections, as spoilers.
You have been warned!
Ever since the first trailer released, I've been pondering this amphitheater scene.
Where is it?
What is it?
Who are the people involved?
And what exactly are Grindelwald and Rosier doing?
I've finally worked out a theory that I'm excited to share with you.
And it all starts with those bird statues which we get a better view of in the Comic-Con
trailer.
I initially thought they were eagles, but Shane pointed out to me that they are crows.
You can tell by the beaks.
Which, of course, makes us think of the Lestranges.
But what if there were another correlation to a gathering of crows.
As in murder?
You can have a gaggle of geese, a cauldron of bats, but a group of crows is called a
murder.
As crows are scavengers, they were often seen circling cemeteries and battlefields and were
thought to foretell death.
In folklore, crows would also gather to hold court over their own, and if a crow was judged
to have trespassed, the other crows would swoop down and kill it.
Which makes me wonder, is this circle of crow pillars not only supporting the amphitheater
roof, but also upholding justice?
And is this murder of crows overseeing the executions that follow?
If so, could we be getting our first glimpse of the French Ministry's judicial and execution
chamber?
After all, we saw the death chamber in London's Department of Mysteries that resembled the
courtroom Harry had been in earlier and included a raised dais which held the Veil of death.
Then there was MACUSA's weird pool of death.
As we've already seen that the French Ministry hints at the French Revolution, which included
mass executions, could this be a very old chamber that witnessed public trials and the
executions that followed?
But isn't the crow, the Corvus, a symbol associated with the Lestrange family?
Keep in mind that the Lestranges seem to be a very old and aristocratic family…as their
huge family mausoleum in the center of Paris should attest.
And carved on one of those tombs is the Lestrange family motto: Corvus Oculum Corvi non Eruit.
Thanks so much to Wendell Rosier for bringing this to my attention.
It means, a crow will not pull out the eye of another crow, and is a well-known Latin
saying indicating, basically, honor among thieves.
According to MentalFloss.com, it "refers to complete solidarity amongst a group of
like-minded people regardless of the consequences or condemnation."
Could the Lestranges have been like the Malfoys and the Blacks in the UK?
Using their money and connections to influence the French Ministry?
And if so, might the judicial chamber have been designed in their honor?
And could some of these executions have been people who opposed them -- political assassinations?
They would not pluck out their own eyes, but watch out anyone who stood against them.
I would even go so far as to speculate that the effigies scattered about the chamber are
not of Lestrange family members, but may be the remains of famous executions.
Perhaps that's why there seems to be a wing covering this one rather than the normal body
representation.
One other piece of evidence I want to point out is the poster from Comic-Con.
As we talked about in the trailer reaction video, these four corners seem to show scenes
linked to the characters in those corners.
We have Dumbledore with Hogwarts, and the Cliffs of Dover.
Maledictus and Credence below scenes from the circus.
Leta and Theseus below the National Gallery on Trafalgar Square.
And then Grindelwald beside his carriage escape and above the French Ministry.
But why would Grindelwald be associated with the French Ministry?
Is it perhaps because this key scene of him on the dais is part of the Ministry?
Perhaps, even, the Thestral carriage was taking him there?
Or is it associated with the Team and not him?
At the very beginning of the film, we see Grindelwald's escape.
We've been told that he's being extradited to Europe.
Could it be that his Thestral-drawn coach was taking him to this very courtroom to face
not just trial, but execution?
After all, at the beginning of FB1, he stands in front of a chateau where he kills 5 Aurors.
Maybe the movie comes full circle near the end with him appearing willingly at the court
to stand, not before his supporters as I prior thought, but his accusers.
I may be truly going out on a limb with this one, but I'm wondering if with his charm,
charisma, and conviction of cause, Grindelwald meets before this court to persuade them to
his cause…and succeeds.
Which would really give a whole new spin to Jonny Depp appearing before the audience at
Comic-Con, wouldn't it?
At Comic-Con, Depp gave a persuasive in-character argument.
Shown on the panels surrounding him were clips from this scene, with some in the audience
holding up lit wands.
Not everyone, though.
Are those lit wands meant to signal their vote of approval?
Earlier in the trailer, we saw something black moving throughout Paris, covering the buildings
in black sheets.
In the Comic-Con poster, a black sheet also holds Grindelwald's symbol.
Obviously, Grindelwald's power is spreading throughout France.
By the end of the film, has he perhaps overtaken the French Ministry by vote rather than armed
force?
Here's one more image to hint that this may have been a ministry meeting.
Who can you spot in this gathering?
Right there.
That's Theseus.
And over here, that may be Yusuf Kama.
I initially thought the brothers Scamanders invaded Grindelwald's group of supporters
in a raid.
That what this image seems to indicate.
But at least Theseus was there much longer.
Perhaps from the start.
But I want to go back to what Grindelwald could have said or done to have persuaded
this crowd.
Consider what he said in character at Comic-Con regarding Muggles: "I do not hate them.
I do not.
I say the Muggles are not lesser.
Not worthless, but of other value.
Magic blooms only in rare souls.
It is granted to those who live for higher things…The moment has come, to rise up and
take our rightful place in the world."
Here, before an assembly of wizarding world supporters and accusers, is he sowing the
seeds of othering and tribalism that will lead the magical community toward mass Muggle
slaughter?
And does he use or manipulate three key elements in this scene to do so?: the skull, the bright
light, and the dais.
I've speculated a lot about the skull Rosier holds in her hands, linking it to a dark alchemist
who performed a child sacrifice ritual to heal a dying king, which would probably appear
only in subtext.
We've also discussed whether Grindelwald could be using it for his visions, and whether
he could be presenting it magically in this scene to give testimony.
Now, I'm also wondering if he's using something about the skull to announce the
beginning of his plan to move, enslave, or eliminate Muggles?
I don't think the skull is a Lestrange ancestor, because the writing seems to be in German,
not French.
But, remember how we discussed that Grindelwald is the shadow of Newt.
Newt was expelled, or almost expelled, for endangering the life of another student.
Grindelwald was expelled from Durmstrang when his experiments got too dark.
Were his experiments so dark that they became deadly?
Did he kill someone…a Muggle perhaps?
And is this skull his trophy, marked with the laurel wreath to indicate his triumph,
and containing the magical power which led to that one death, and the fiery secret for
many more to come?
Perhaps this skull was his first step in his quest for the greater good that has led him
to the French Ministry to gain their full support in affirming rather than condemning
The Crimes of Grindelwald.
As for the dais, I know this is going to sound crazy, but I think it may be an ancient time
turner, but one that tracks time rather than transports you back into it.
As I mentioned in my first trailer reaction video, the first time I saw it, I thought
it was a solar clock and could be used for some sort of ritual.
I'm even more convinced of the ritual part now.
Look at these: this is a zodiac wheel, which we discussed in a prior video.
And this is a prayer wheel.
And this one is from a Renaissance medical text that aligns alchemy and astrology symbols.
All of these turn to determine the timing of esoteric alignments, understand divine
judgements, or reveal mortal fate.
And all of them center the sun or god.
Grindelwald stands dead center.
I believe that stone dais will come magically to life and turn, aligning him, somehow, with
Right and Power.
Perhaps this turning will even bring about that burst of light, and prove (at least to
some) the truth of his argument.
The time has come for magicals to quote: "rise up and take our rightful place in the world."
And then what of the people who voted against him?
Those people shooting off in plumes of smoke or dust don't look like the apparation that
has been used so far.
Look carefully at this woman and this one, and watch what happens.
These women seem to be overtaken by whatever is happening to them, rather than transforming
themselves.
They are not waving their wands.
They simply look up as they start to transform.
Watch again.
I wondered, could these be executions we're witnessing?
Are they dissenters, or those of Muggle heritage, and Grindelwald is eliminating them?
But no one around them seems to be reacting in horror or panic.
Maybe there's a reason why.
Watch it again, but pay attention to those not transforming.
Did you see anyone move?
This time, I want you to pay particular attention to this guy, who seems to be posed to run.
Notice that he didn't move.
I have not yet been able to detect any movement except for the women transforming.
They're frozen in time.
Has Grindelwald somehow successfully used this ancient dais to manipulate or freeze
time?
And if so, has he decimated his audience while no one could stop him?
Or, is no one noticing what's going on right beside them?
A foretelling of what's to come.
Even Theseus appears frozen.
But I bet you anything, Newt, with his outsider perspective, will not be.
I think Grindelwald manipulates this dais, skull, and light to form an image in his audience's
mind of the golden age of wizardry.
A time period when they were free to live in the open without Muggle involvement.
An image that captivates, most, not all, of his audience and persuades their votes of
approval.
This vote, perhaps, magically empowers Grindelwald further so that he can manipulate and freeze
time to eliminate those who opposed him.
To bite out the eyes of those who saw through the utopia of his vision to its ugly reality.
So, what do you think?
Did I take this theory a bit too far?
Do you think we could be seeing the Death Chamber in the French Ministry, but not sure
of the time manipulation?
Please, share your thoughts in the comments.
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Until next time…
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