Hello everybody welcome to The County Seat
I'm your host Chad Booth. We are on the road
today in Kane County at the Kane County
Commission Chamber with not 3
Commissioners but today we have 5 which is
the very topic of our show. We are talking that
unique American characteristic that after an
election there is an orderly transfer of power
information experience from one
administration to the next and this is a very
interesting microcosm because we have a
retiring a defeated a standing commissioner
and 2 commissioner elects all sitting at the
same table and I must tell you that leading up
to this point it has been very friendly,
informative and congenial. So my hat is off to
them so let's start our conversation and
introduce our panel. Dirk Clayson who is
Commissioner current standing and retiring
commissioner from Kane County we also have
Brent Chamberlain who is a commissioner elect
for Kane County and Lamont Smith who is
current commissioner and continue to be so
and Andy Gant Commissioner elect and finally
Jim Matson who is also stepping down at the
end of the year and thank you all for taking the
time to be with us today. I wanted to start with
the new guys and start with this question, it's
been maybe a couple of week do you feel
overwhelmed at this point?
Yes, it's going to take a lot of time and it will
take a lot of time to get up to speed.
What I am finding is that the current
commissioners have a lot under their belt they
know a lot of things that I do not know and
there is an awful lot to learn so not a lot of time
to do it in big steep learning curve.
Do any of you think there should be an
internship? You win election and you do an
internship for 2 years to see if you actually want
to take the job.
Might not get many people to do that for 2
years.
That's true. What about you existing guys
Lamont you have to do some relationship
building you have to work with these guys over
the nest couple of years.
Yes, it's going to be a transition that going to be
a challenge but they are great guys I know both
of them and I think they are up for the task and
I am going to have to be up for the task it is
great to have them on and I am really going to
miss Jim and Dirk and the good thing is Jim and
Dirk are still going to be well involved in what
we do.
So Dirk a curious question you have somebody
that is taking over your seat is it like handing
over your child? Is there part of you I hope he
does this right?
Well first of all you have to remember that new
commissioners are always better than old
commissioners. So if you have that mindset it
helps a bit and I have a lot of trust in the new
commissioners and I think that we have done a
lot to build a good foundation they have asked
a lot of questions they have attended a lot of
meetings over the last 6 months and been
bringing themselves up to sped so obviously in
my decision to get back into my businesses and
leave the commissioner it is a mixed emotional
decisions a lot of things you have a lot of
interest in but you have to be willing to let go
and trust us and new leadership will take them
to a good and better places and I have that
trust.
So Brent you basically showed up at the primary
level did you have an opponent between the
primaries and a final election.
I did. I had opponents both in the primary and
an opponent in the general election as well.
Were you in the same spot Andy?
Yes, I did not in the general but I did in the
primary.
Quite often in rural counties the election
sometimes decided at the primaries long before
the general election. Both of you have been
attending meetings for the period of time what
has been the toughest part of this so far of you
what is the hill that looks like it will be the
toughest one to climb?
All the different assignments. I cannot believe
we have sit down and talked about all the
responsibilities that each one has now and the
list is long and get your head around some of
those we have to get familiar with some of
those it will take a little time we will be relying
on Dirk and Jim to get us up to speed and lead
the way.
Is there one area Brent that in particular you
said wow what did I sign up for?
The same as Andy said there are a lot of
assignments there are these things that I had
not a clue that these are responsibilities that
the county commission dealt with and not only
did I not know that I also do not know what
they are so there is a lot to learn about it some
things are obvious I have been serving on the
city council for about 6 years and I thought it
would be a fairly easy transition but it turns out
there is a bit more with this than sitting on a
city council so I have a steep learning curve a lot
to learn.
With the responsibilities they change and so I
am also in the learning stage I am going to have
to learn some responsibilities that Jim and Dirk
have had that I need to do now it's a learning
curve for all of us.
Do portfolios change when there is a change in
the leadership of the county?
I expect that in terms of how circumstances
shape up as you go along some have strengths
and weaknesses and we also have a county
organization where other elected officials as
well as department heads we have to rely on so
we have integrating that brings us together and
the way I look at December 31 I'm not sure Jim
Matson is going to change that much there are
going to have to get me out of the way I like
working on this stuff I will be supporting these
folks as we go forth.
So I guess if all of these portfolios are going to
switch up come the first of the year I want to
explore the time commitment just a bit as to
can you pass on to these 2 gentlemen what the
time commitment is it is a part time job.
Part time job I like Commissioner Jones form
Carbon County it's considered a part time job
because sometimes on Sundays we don't work.
The time commitments are incredible and I
think it's I would hope that more people in the
general public would have a chance to learn and
I know that programs like yours help develop
educational basis for what our commission roles
are and how county government work are very
helpful in that regard.
Well with that nice pat on the back we will take
a quick break on the county seat and pay some
bills come back and continue our conversation
with the 3 member commission of 5 that we
have right here right now, be right back.
Welcome back to The County Seat having a
most unusual and interesting conversation with
5 commissioners who are responsible for 3
seats here in Kane County Utah it is a really
good example of the transition of power as we
have so many different scenarios between the
officials here. I do want to follow on something
and that is Lamont you mentioned that we all
have different portfolios and that there are
going to be some changes how do you
determine that. Brent you have experience in
some areas in city council so you probably
would be more equipped at municipal
relationship and intermodal agreements and
Andy would be compelled different. So do you
throw them in a hat and start picking, how do
you do that?
We have met and have talked about the
assignments that we have and there are
strengths in some of us in different areas so we
are going to have to sit down and decide who
can do the job. There are some at legislature
which Dirk has been taking care of and one of
so three are going to have to take care of it
now. There is land issues, road issues,
Law enforcement issues which I presume you
would take.
No, in fact I kind of stay away from that because
I was a Sheriff for so long here that I think
another man Andy can do that responsibility
because I will help all I can but I do not want my
way I ran the Sheriff's office to interfere as a
commissioner so that is why we talk to each
other and we find out.
I have a question are there any of them that
you both want?
Well there are some that I am not terribly
comfortable with as it's probably not a strength
as we talk about these things some general
areas some I enjoy and feel more comfortable
with we are still fine tuning some of that I think
that the advantage and we have a pretty
diverse portfolio experiences coming into this
we really do the 3 of us going forward and so
hopefully we can find within each one of us the
strength in an area that needs to be covered
and I think that will be the case.
Okay I have a couple side bar questions I have
been dying to ask. This might be the Jerry
Springer part of the show but Dirk as you
decided to sit this one out was Andy the guy
you were backing? Was your first choice or did
you stay out of it completely?
Well Andy was the guy I was backing from the
time that I knew I would be sitting it out I was
Knocking on doors looking for recruits and Andy
came forward and I felt good about his interests
and skills and his background and his interests
and the things I was concerned with.
Andy I have to tell you a story we were shooting
a show up in Orderville we happen to be at the
house of the Mayor my wife Ria asks how is it
that you became Mayor of Orderville, and he
said it was my turn. They came by and told me
it was my turn. Do you kind of feel that way
here okay it's your turn buddy.
Actually I think I approached Dirk first and he
said I think he said you better go home and
contemplate that a little more before you
decide and he said I will support you if you
decide to do it.
So there is another question that is dying to be
asked anybody who knows the dynamics and
that is the fact that Jim was running against
Brent and Jim is the incumbent and Brent won
how you have guys gotten along with this whole
thing.
For me up until the results of the election took
place I was competitive and I wanted to stay
competitive and work at it but when the results
were in I just had to settle down and sit back
and say well hell.
Now there's an honest answer for you.
This is reality it's up to me to make sure that
this transition is as orderly and as smooth as it
can be and I support it as such that is my
general nature.
So Brent I have run for office I have lost of
course I was not an incumbent at the time but
was Jim's reaction a surprise to you could you
expect that.
Probably not I know Jim well enough that he
would be a gentlemen through the process and
that if I was to win he would be disappointed
you expect that I expected him to be helpful
and be a gentlemen and that is exactly what has
happened we have had lunch and talked about
transition issues and his advice and suggestions
and again it gets back to the comment and the
kind of community it is it's not adversarial we
do what's best for the community. I for one
and I am sure Andy and the ones that have
been serving have been doing what is best for
the community it's not like this part time full
time full time is so desirable that you do it for
the compensation you have to be doing it
because you feel it's the best for the
community.
Let's move down the step one more we got a
few minutes left in the program we will be right
back.
Welcome back to The County Seat we are
talking to the Kane county commissioners past,
present and future like its Christmas season. I
do want to talk about assignments most people
think well the commissioner makes a budget
and decides a few things and handles some
planning and zoning you guys are really busy
how many assignments are there in a
commissioner's portfolio?
These guys know more than I do.
Part of the thing that I think is not commonly
understood is that we have both legislative and
administrative responsibilities. For example we
have direct line supervision and responsibilities
for many of the departments within the county
and we have a number of boards that we are
responsible for management of as well as our
other executive duties and so generally we have
about 60 responsibilities and divide up amongst
us about 20 each we have about another 15
that are common like the budget is something
that we all equally share and in the 20
assignments that each of us have or different
departments road, HR, volunteer center, office
of tourism whatever it might be we try to assign
those based on what interests level is there and
skill set is there amongst the group of us like for
example Brent Chamberlain was running for the
position one of the things that he had a lot of
passion about was economic development that
is a responsibility that I currently have and
instead of going to Andy we are going to assign
it to Brent it's been something that he has
interest and skillset in and I actually think his
new energy in there is going to be very
beneficial to us. So that is just an example of
how we try to manage things and in addition to
that we have a number of projects currently
building community center we might have some
specific things that are just a short duration 6
months or a year we try to assign out to balance
out our work load.
Do you think you could handle any more if all
the sudden the state says there is going to be a
new board and counties have to have a
representative on it.
We do that I came in as the junior
commissioner and I think they felt sorry for me
Jim hand Dirk they had a heavy load the
legislature is a big one and lands issues are very
big one of the reasons I did run for
commissioner back when I was elected was it
had been about a year since I retired from the
Sheriff's office and there was a lot of things
that I would like to see through on the road
issues but I found out that the commissioners
that were already here were well informed on
that so my transition in was maybe take over
some of the other responsibilities and let them
handle the hard stuff.
Guess that's not going to work anymore is it?
But we do have 2 capable commissioners and
the lands issues it was huge and Jim took that
and really knew what he was doing and Dirk on
the roads issues there is a lot of special service
districts that were responsible for and I think I
have about 6 or 7 special service districts I go to
and am a liaison between and the commission
and I found out that being commissioner and
having all these responsibilities was so wide
spread it was a great responsibility for us we
take a lot of pride in Kane county and we want
to help all we can. All these assignments get us
out of the chambers and out into the public and
it's how it needs to be to let the people know
they have a voice in how Kane County is going
to be run.
I do want to ask one final question let's start
with the current commissioners, Jim what
advise do you have for Brent?
I think overall he should not try to work on
something he is not comfortable with taking on
just a matter of identifying what that is and
then figure out the support and help in that
process and I am available for that.
The advice would be don't hesitate to call the
old guy.
Exactly, there is another good line around here
and that's there is no such thing as a good
surprise.
Dirk what advise do you have for Andy.
First of all I appreciate both of your guy's
willingness to step up and my advice is to try
and find a way to say yes. It takes some
creativity and effort and a lot of times
government is seen as this big no and I think
with a little effort we can find a way to say yes
and secondly to try and be able to find a way to
not get so worked up about issues in meetings
so that you can leave the meeting that you did
not have regrets about how you expressed
yourself or how things went.
With that this is a great way to end a half hour.
Gentlemen thank you for joining us. People at
home please take a moment to applaud this
transfer of power it is really remarkable there
are some places in the world that this transition
would be bloody and costly and here it happens
seamlessly and its been doing that for 250 years
so let's be grateful for the fact that we live in
the U.S. remember that local government is
where your life happens make sure that you are
involved and part of the solution and please
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we will see you next week on The County Seat.
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