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welcome everyone to our Tuesday May 29th City Council meeting
CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE Madame clerk to establish QUORUM MICKY SCHNIEDER here
TERRY MCCLUNG I'm here KRISTY Kendrick here Bob Thomas here Melissa green here
David Mitchell present we had six stand AND PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE PLEASE I pledge allegiance to
the flag the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands
one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all all right
get a motion to approve the agenda follow so MOVED anybody have anything
yes I've received an email I'm sorry from
the chair of the Planning Commission concerning I would be and achieved a
moratorium yes about that yeah about a moratorium on coverage and is it
I was going to add that also yeah so I would like to have that to the agenda
and I'll move it I'll second that okay anybody else so is that we also
have visited six
in item number seven I'd like to add a resolution deleting rock street from the
city trails or parks trails MAP okay do you need a SECOND FOR THAT BUTCH he's the
mayor okay anyone else what was that Rock Street Rock Street
and here is if there's nothing else going to get a motion to approve the
agenda as amended so move to move second all those in favor signify by saying aye
aye any opposed there's so moved
the motion to approve the minutes by any additions Corrections hearing none all
those in favor of approving the minutes and submitted some signify by saying aye
aye any opposed aye opposed by one we have
PLANNING Commission had the vacancy also the hospital Commission has a vacancy
too and we do have an application from Cameron NOW I AM GOING TO MESS HIS NAME UP probably DANEWER
for the parks for your consideration yes ma'am I make a motion
there we sub Cameron for POST I'll second that
all right comments all those in favor signify by saying aye opposed okay let
Cameron know also got a vacancy two vacancies on the cemetery Commission so
anybody's interested in helping out on Cemetery
please with my office no which brings us to public comments
thank you my name is Eric Knowles and I live a to spur lane in this city I come
before you this afternoon with two questions where is the consensus that
Eureka Springs should be debt-free and second why did finance director Lonnie
Clark and MAYOR Butch berry fear the Securities and Exchange Commission so
much at the May 14th City Council meeting Clark reported that he and the
mayor want to accelerate paying off two sewer bonds to quote get out from the
under the thumb of the security Exchange Commission's Clark also reported that he
and the mayor want the city to be debt-free by 2025 BONDS bringing SEC
oversight added accounting requirements and probably more work for Clark
however the added protection well serves the bondholders the city and the
citizens because of the existing sewer bonds the SEC requires outside audit of
the Eureka Springs sewer and water department
Joyce KNOWLES and Eric Knowles use the outside audit performed last year to
inform Clark the mayor and the city council that the amortization schedule
attached to ordinance to 265 overstated the bond indebtedness by 1 million eight
hundred and fifteen thousand dollars Clark and the mayor both thanked us for
finding this error they now want to eliminate the audit the the audit that
allowed us to find it the more fundamental question has to do with why
this city would want to be debt-free this is an odd and counterproductive
goal cities incur debt so that they can have nice things now and pay for them
later like Eureka Springs has done with the sewer treatment plant and the new
police building debt is our problem only when one cannot make payments the
sewer bonds are no longer problems there's a very low interest rate 3.2
percent and 4.2 percent and are now covered by the recent sewer increases
there's no need to pay them off early and the extra money to do so could be
better spent fixing the water infrastructure debt-free seems to be a
goal only to escape audit and oversight but the SEC is not interested in taking
over this city or any city department and would do so only when there was
gross financial or administrative nonfeasance
debt is not the problem in fact that could serve the city very well a parking
structure downtown could be explored to see if it would help citizens visitors
and the economic lifeblood of this community the city should investigate
whether bonds for downtown parking dick could be guaranteed with CPA tax
collections and paid off with parking fees the city should stop acting out of
fear of the SEC to start thinking how best to use the money for this city
thank you I have one other thing I'm deaf I have trouble hearing you at this
meeting I go and I look at the you edited YouTube if there's a sign at the
bottom says it's been the YouTube video has been edited for clarity it has not
it there are many mistakes in that editing
and I implore you to go and look at that videotape and see how many errors are in
it thank you
thank you sure hi my name is
Bill King as you know because I've been here before many times so Washington
Street parking you on your agenda today you have a discussion of it and you you
have two ordinances that have been drafted for you to consider one would be
to remove three parking places and have access to point Street from two
directions the other is meant to give access to take away one parking space
and give access from a single direction that second one the ordinance is written
wrong so it's coming it's actually clearing you from the wrong direction so
if you decide to with to the floor the one way option you need to go back and
do some measurements and rewrite that if you can see on my picture I've kind of
drawn what's going on there there are three parking places across from POINT
Street there if you had access from both directions those would all go away if
you had access from just the note from the south side which is where emergency
vehicles would be coming from you would only lose one parking place and I
proposed that actually that one parking place could be saved by moving it to
over to the other side there at the trolley stop you've got 40 feet from
summit street from the corner of Summit Street to the first driveway so you
could have a 20-foot parking space there and still have 20 feet from from the
corner for to keep traffic from backing up I know I know Jimmy our fire marshal
is very insistent that we have access from both sides and I appreciate his his
dedication however I think you know he's going by the International fire code
and I think if we're gonna apply strictly the International fire code to
the city we're basically gonna have to tear the city down and start over
because it's just not doable there are many places in town where you don't have
access from two directions and I feel perfectly fine and the people on POINT
Street would feel perfectly safe if the emergency vehicles could get there from
one direction as this discussion goes during the meeting I would appreciate it
if someone if I'd like to speak some more if someone would grant me some time
to speak during the actual discussion on this topic thank you I will be brief and
my name is John Rankin and I'm the husband of Bill King and co-owner of one
Washington Street which is a four-plex which houses many people that are
cleaning your toilets serving you here margaritas and etc etc it's um when Bill
and I bought the building many many years ago from Carolyn green we decided
to let Carolyn it was a long story but basically we let Carolyn green die in
her place along with her husband Shalom and that was part of the deal of buying
the place so that they could not be EVICTED because of that when they both died
we had the choice of either doing whatever we wanted to do with the
building and we kept it affordable housing because we thought it was really
important but this town has affordable housing for some of the people that live
here and I think you can't punish people who are from a lower economic level
because they want to live in town I think it's only fair that they get the
chance to be part of our community well and so removing the parking it's
just going to be so detrimental to these people that are already struggling
enough you know I'm not totally altruistic you know it's going to hurt
our investment in that building if we can't say to tenants we have parking in
the near future for them off street parking so I just want to say please
don't take the parking away you're opening a huge can of worms the people
on Vaughan Street have already contacted me with concerns about that if that
parking is removed it's going to impact their Street there's no other place for
these you know our tenants to park or for guests that are coming to park in
this facility I think you're opening up a major can of worms if you do this I
mean I think you know this town is obviously very very tight we all know it
we all live it we all respect it you know there was no problem there was no
safety concerns when you know that 12 foot green what WATCH A MA call it was out
there for eight months while they fixed the building across the street there was
no cries or out cries of this is not safe anymore this is not safe I just
want to you know feed with with Council basically to please listen to Bill's
proposal the removal of one parking aspect would be I think fine for for all
the above but to have all of it removed is not very cool thank you
today all right that's into the public comments new business get a motion to
read resolution in support of pension review board rule over force although
second all right any questions comments yes I make a motion we signed the
resolution to number and read it for passage get a second for a second any
discussion all those in favor signify by saying aye aye aye
any opposed MR. MCLUNG yes miss KENDRICKS yes good no miss green
yes mr. Thomas yeah miss SCHNIEDER yes mr. Mitchel yes six 0 the resolution number
will be 7 to 7 adopting pension Review Board rule number 4 whereas the local
fire pension board has passed resolution adopting the Arkansas fire and police
pension Review Board rule number 4 and whereas this allows the pension plans
with less than 50 participants to utilize the alternate cash flow
projection valuation method of determining actuarial soundness and
whereas the City Council of the city of Eureka Springs along with a local fire
pension board certifies to the Arkansas fire and police pension Review Board
it's understanding a board rule number four and the risk
involve small group insert and certifies its understanding of the risk involved
with an alternate cash flow method now therefore be it resolved by the City
Council of the city of EUREKA SPRINGS Arkansas that the council hereby
approves the utilization of board rule number four for the local firemen's
pension fund all right that brings us to discussion the for Washington Street
parking motion second we have met with the fire marshal and building inspector
and both of our marshal chiefs here yes sir or I'm not sure who brought us to
the table they should be speaking first
what can I bring can I bring a little reference to what we've done go ahead
mr. THOMAS even obviously your names on it so go ahead tell me I would like to
ask mr. there our chief a question to start with
going back two years ago when the same issue was before us we had I had a
neighbor come to me who was very concerned about her house based upon the
point Street discussion you have your hand is he going to come till we hear
the response I'm sorry what good
so I had a neighbor come to me very concerned about her house I came to you
to talk to you about the problem in town correct and this is the response I wrote
to my neighbor and I just want to read it to you spoke to our prior to today
about equipment access to her Street according to him the fire department has
two not one as was mentioned AT A recent council meeting pumper truck both
of which would be able to turn on to a small street in addition if they were
not able to directly access your house or if they needed more water than the
two trucks could provide firefighters train regularly on hooking up hoses to
fire hydrants and then carrying laying them down the hose on the run to the
actual fire site nearby and her response was thank you for inquiring about that
this makes me feel a lot better so I guess my question what I don't
understand is what is the difference between the point Street interact
intersection and all the other little intersections in town you know every
intersection in every street in town is different this this town is unlike any
other town across our country
fire fire departments have issues accessing streets all over the country I
think anytime that an opportunity is provided for us to do what's in the best
interest of Public Safety that's going to be our fire marshals determination we
want to do what's in the best interest of Public Safety if if there's an area
and there are areas that we can't get some of our bigger fire trucks down
certain streets there will be quite a bit of carrying of hose like mr. McClung
and I've just Justin and miss Schneider and I've
discussed in the past we've relocated some of our smaller apparatus closer to
town just for that reason but the intersection there is no different than
any other intersection throughout the community if there's an area that we're
not going to be able to access we're going to be doing quite a bit of
manpower it's it's quite labor intensive so if we can't get a truck down that
road we're going to be carrying a lot of HOSE and depending on the construction
of whatever building is being built and the amount of water that's going to be
required the fire flow in order to put out the fire load you know it it just
depends on the structure and the involvement by the time we get there so
thank you MS SCHNIEDER so in your professional opinion does anything if
you have your druthers does anything need to be done at this intersection
that's question one I know at that particular intersection because we would
on two different occasions taking taken fire apparatus two different fire
apparatus to that intersection and have had had difficulty turning down
that that particular road we've had to make several point turns and with one
apparatus were unable to and Jimmy might be able to answer that one with 51 we're
unable to make access coming from one direction is that correct are you
familiar with that coming we've taken two different apparatus to that
intersection I know we took Jim you need camera we've taken the Sullivan which is
a smaller apparatus short wheelbase and coming from let's say the Crescent Hotel
direction turning into point Street we had to make a three or a four point turn
backing up pulling forward back in that foam board backing up pulling forward
and then finally making it down and then coming from the hospital direction that
way we actually had to make a tumor a three point turn but engine 54 let the
54 a primary engine that is housed at Station one up by McDonald's which is 51
right 54 used to be we've changed numbers a few times and
changed locations a few times but that particular apparatus had quite a
challenge making that that particular turn from either direction correct
I see so does that answer your question that's part of question one okay so
question two is because I know we went through this several years ago question
two is do you have a small enough engine that can make the turn fully easily from
the proper direction
not one that puts out the amount of fire flow that we required for a fully
involved structure would it be enough to contain the fire while you were walking
hose down there it just it just depends on how on how big how and all the fire
is it's all based on speculation and how big the fire is okay so the question
three and hopefully the last one for now is when you guys get these calls I
assume from our talks before that you know exactly where it is and the fact
that you need a smaller one versus larger or whatever correct no matter
where a call comes from right so you wouldn't just blindly be going out to an
address and got once we needed a different truck being that we have four
full-time paid staff they also staff the ambulances we may rely on volunteers to
acquire a particular vehicle or apparatus depending on what structure
were responding to and we would know in the location but we may not have that
vehicle parked at station one but you would have the knowledge of what was
required generally from an ADDRESS call correct
okay thank you
mr. Mitchell yes sir I want to go back to a couple things in my question will
be purview chief and also you fire marshal at the same time so even one of
you can answer as you see fit fire marshal KELLY back on July 26th
of 16 429 you wrote a letter to Bill King at that time
specifically saying you were sorry for any confusion created I realize this is
not what you want to hear but this is what I find is needed to properly access
point Street please pay a note that this letter was written to bill King back on
726 of 16 it included a list of requirements to
make Point Street achieve a level of fire code compliance based on the fact
that it had the opportunity to be compliant to those fire codes with a few
suggestions one was the dead end with the turn around is that turn around
available now there is a turn microphone
that turnaround is there where he had been constructed I have not been there
but chief Samak had told me that it was
so then if that's the case the ambulance that went down there to one of Bill
King's rental places the other day had to back out and get citizens to help it
back out because it didn't use the turn around do they just not know about that
turn around if it's not marked that's possibility and depending on
whether utilizing part-time personnel so they
have this code here from what 16 that's still not in effect
thanks well yes buildings and facilities Road should extend 150 feet grading but
one of the most down here was fire apparatus self access roads shall not be
obstructed in any manner including the parking of vehicles for this section we
have already addressed with Council and request the intersection appointment
Washington Street be marked red curb 460 feet to the south and north from the
center of point Street on the west side of Washington Street to allow room to
make an approach into point Street are you agreeing with that statement or not
that was Jimmy's interpretation at that time whenever he evaluated what code was
available pertaining to reviewing the construction
plan and so some core answer to that is yes or no you agree with it I would have
to agree with Jimmy's assessment at that time okay I got an email here from you
on April the 27th of 2018 in which he said I agree with him that we have to be
able to make the turn on the point Street I still stand by that if it can
be made accessible for us to get an apparatus and not drag a thousand feet a
five inch hose down Point Street and then after we don't mind doing you know
physical labor that's part of this job but getting apparatus as close
as possible to a burning structure means that we can get a fire put out quicker
so which one of these proposals do you support taking one or two parkings
places away are taking all three
after having a discussion with fire chief Kelly and building official and
several others dependent you know pertaining to this and there are there
are you know it's a it's a an interesting question because if you want
specifically my opinion I your professional opinion is the fire to
better department what you would recommend to us I would like to be able
to turn an apparatus down that big down that Street if at all possible from so
which one of these ordinances then do you support bill has ever seen either
ordinance I think in one or two parking spaces so that if you're coming from up
Summit Street and coming up that way there was a discussion about taking
either one or two places to make the swing-off in eliminating coming from the
Crescent Hotel down because she say most of the time fire trucks come from the
summit Street up so I think that's kind of what Bill's proposal is in a way it
may be off from it but that's kind of what suits our discussion the last time
we've since sold one fire station all right the one on White Street yes so the
probability of responding from WHITE street that direction
it's possible but it's not very probable but if we happen to be at the Crescent
Hotel on an alarm a fire alarm and a crew comes in you know or there's
another fire alarm that there's possibilities and then there's
probabilities so fire chief makes it difficult to access that street from
either direction the way now is that an acceptable alternative
it's up to the chief in the council because it's a public street
so as certainly their call I have to bring it to the attention because it was
being evaluated for a building that mr. King he asked me to evaluate the street
before he could build a building what wouldn't be needed would it be was that
Street of a proper egress or something along that nature so I went over that's
how it got started then I have to evaluated according to
several different chapters of the code on fire apparatus access to start with
before I even get into the type of building or whatever things like that so
that's how I had to put down what I felt was needed at that type of intersection
to get in there but it does create a big problem and certainly would not try to
knock people out of their livelihood or whatever they could here for parking but
I have to put it down that way as the best interest to me would be have access
from either direction it makes good sense with the teacher saying what's
being asked about can we just get there from one Street at one direction mainly
it's a good question and can it has to be somebody has to make that decision
and I think chief SAMIC because has that position or the council to decide
what we need to do but I think you all need to know and you all need to be a
part of that discussion and figure it out so that it some happens later I'm
not liable and CHIEF SAMIC may or may not want to tell you exactly that's that is
his call as my chief and chief of our fire department so John I don't disagree
with coming from the Crescent Hotel if we all hypothetical every bit of this is
hypothetical if we were to come from the Crescent Hotel on apparatus to go down
Point Street the option would be to past point Street turn up toward Ojo and some
back in VAUGHN and then access it again it would be a delay of you know 30
seconds another another question fire the chief FIRE marshal when a person is
doing new construction you have some requirements that you're necessarily
supposed to do before they get building permits is that yes and is one of those
that you assess the fire situation and the access to it was that done for the
new construction at the end of point Street yes that's that's how come about
so it so you did do the assessment and everything that allowed the building
inspector to give the permits what you're telling me yes okay good okay
okay um there was a dumpster along this street for months if not more than a
year I assume that that was there by virtue of a permit am I correct or did
they just drop it there this question didn't answer and the fire department
has no say in whether the STREET is blocked that I think we're informed when
streets are completely blocked yeah
we're informed when the street is completely blocked why were we informed
that a dumpster would be there for whatever period of time it was there I
don't know I'd have to go back through our daily logs during that period of
time and check but as far as my knowledge right now of whether we were
informed that that dumpster was going to be placed there from this point in time
to this point in time and I don't know would that dumpster have obstructed your
ability to make those terms I don't remember exactly where the dumpster was
from I'm just wondering why nobody was upset about all this when that dumpster
was there and now all of a sudden we are Christy I can answer questions they they
were and the homeowners that look good having the dumpsters put there actually
called the fire department and the fire department said to move it up as close
to that that distant driveway as possible to make the point the swing off
of off of Washington Street coming in from from Summit so they actually had
the the dumpsters moved and they were than they were continued thereafter on
the on the part of the fire department and that would be in our daily log that
we keep I don't like I said I don't have that with me right now I have a question
of the city attorney um do we require permits for dumpsters on city streets
I would have to look but I don't believe so that would be a question you'd you'd
be better off to sight TO a building official he would be at for charge of
that action miss Schneider okay go through me and MICKY have you guys
okay you said you didn't have a chance head and had a chance to read these
Jimmy have you seen them okay I would like to suggest we don't take any action
today until the marshal and the chief have sat down looked at this and had
discussion with Bill in regards to his map and see if something equitable and
workable could be worked out though it would make the people safe but also not
destroy parking but would that work with you guys well not yet bill guys we've
had several discussions I'd be happy to SIT down you ever read those probably
take me a couple minutes to well then I make a motion that we put this off till
the next meeting so that they can read these go over them three can get
together see what's going on or the two as need be and come up with a final
workable decision second that I just got a motion to defer this for the next
meeting I would like to amend that motion so that bill has an opportunity
to present to the fire department a third I included it him I said his may I
finish America no because I included him researcher
yeah I would like to make an amendment that bill has an opportunity to write up
a third ordinance that the fire department can it's right here okay we
got an amendment interruption mr. King right a third ordinance in SUBMIT along
with the council for these two ordinances question on that amendment do
I have a second second okay okay discussion on the amendment I already
included him I included his map I included them working together what is
the point she wants him brought an ordinance right an ordinance you're
going to ask a non-legal person to write an ordinance okay that makes sense
yes sir mr. David god I'm almost agree with MICKEY this is scary I does happen I
know long second thought I'm second all
right any further discussion on the amendment
if I may have an opportunity to speak uninterrupted I would like to elaborate
I believe bill could describe in writing a better or earning his mind at least a
better location than was presented in those two ordinances a map is not the
same as writing it up I want bill to have the opportunity to
write up the description of what he suggests no I do want to talk him here
okay yes sir mr. Mitchell we have a fire chief WE HAVE A fire marshal we had a
building inspector and I have an email here from the building inspector and
very clearly heard from the building inspector that he agreed with the fire
marshal very clearly these are the experts these are the ones that defend
this city from fire these are the ones that have hold the codes these people
sitting at this table here do not upholds but we're supposed to uphold
them in their decisions I don't hold myself out as an expert on the fire I
didn't volunteer as the fire department put out fires so I don't have a clue I
know about the ambulance a lot but I'm not going to tell them how to run an
ambulance either with my medical background I'm not going to do it
they're the experts and for us to sit here and ask a citizen to write an
ordinance it's based on this need of the person for parking over the fire chief
and the fire marshal is obscene utterly obscene I'm sorry
yeah thank you mr. mayor first of all and I don't know if I should even be
talking about this until you've made a decision on this on this on this
amendment and in the motion that Nikki need I'd like to get back to the topic
at hand but I don't know if I should be discussing we're talking about them
and I have nothing to say about that okay we will be back mm a minute mr.
Thomas did you have something on the amendment no MS SCHNIEDER the whole point
of my motion was to include bill just because he has a quick map doesn't mean
he doesn't know what he's talking about nor does it mean that the two experts
don't know what he's talking about that was the whole point of including the
property owner along with the two experts we do not need to have any other
ordinances or anything else these two will be sufficient or whatever they end
up with taking those two combining them into a final
think no further discussion on the amendment I've got them vote on the
amendment that would have mr. king right a third ordinance to go along with our
other ordinances all those in favor signify by saying aye aye those opposed
see what I'm saying no no motion fails all right
brings us back to the original motion to defer this to our next week may we
discuss first certainly thank you okay I think before we do that you know in a
perfect world all streets would be 60 feet wide but they're not and you know
these streets have been narrow in this town since the inception of the TOWN
GRANTED you know vehicles were smaller wagons cars and trucks and all that but
we have what we have and so you know PRECEDENT is a big thing in this town
and and and if it was a 60 foot street mr. Kelly and mr. Samak would be correct
absolutely you know there's you know there should be anything that's
constructive but it's when it's not you know it's it's it is the street exists
as it exists so you have to take all that history into consideration and and
if you set a precedent by taking away parking spots at a been there and used
historical historically since you know a term an attorney used to use in town
with since the beginning of time well it's not the beginning of time of course
but it's the inception this time then when you do it one place then you aren't
going to open yourself to every place else and this is real
slippery slope and I recommend not going there the the fire department
GRANTED it would be great if they could get a larger apparatus down there but
you know they just have to deal with what they have to deal with that's all
right actually we got the MOTION to DEFER for two weeks into motion stop
waiting with them on that no it's all saved my discussion all those in favor
of deferring this route to our next council meeting signify by saying aye
aye any opposed they say okay so thank you
mr. King we'll get together along with the fire marshal building inspector in
part she discusses president let them send the boys here's their don't want
you have copied oh you got a copy of the ordinance
that brings us to our next item on the agenda 2017 budget cleanup resolution
much to discuss so moved second MR CLARK all right we've got a resolution
for amending our cleanup for 2017 it's for the 2017 here at budget and it's
just simply adjusting the budget to the actual numbers as I came in and that's
something that is we've done every year puts us where we are in compliance
Thomas two years ago this council passed a bit of regarding a specific format
they wanted the clean up resolution to be in at to clean up resolutions and to
mid-year budget resolution SINCE THEN for all four of them we've had to go back
and say this is not in the proper format you know bring it back to us when it is
so I would move to table this until it's in the format adopted by the City
Council
I hear a second I'm confused but FORMAT I'll second it for sake of
discussion okay
discussion but I can answer yeah what for what for me I suppose mass guarding
it would be the original budget figures the final budget figures but the
differences in each category and totals following the differences between the
original budget sentence and the final budget okay now I remember what you're
talking about okay discussion is this possible to do Oni it is it will be very
simple to do something to the furthest we do it this is this is a format that
has been used for years but we can we can comply with that without a problem
motion to defer all those in FAVOR SIGNIFY BY saying aye opposed Thank You
Lonnie
next item is discussing remodel in the auditorium
mr. Thomas just want to point out that at the March 12th meeting of City
Council we had kind of consistence that we wanted to get into the gym for City
Council meetings there was a motion to have cost estimate in phases at least
the middle of April we're almost to the 1st of June now and there's nothing been
done so I would like to set up a schedule for getting estimates and work
started and moving down the stairs and I'd like to have mayor's input on what a
reasonable timeline would be it took me until about two weeks ago to be able to
get the people from the elevator company over here to give us estimates on
elevators and then actually it was about three weeks ago and then I had to send
them back because I'm not sure we could get the elevators there's two different
elevators that we can use we can use a elevator lift without a problem
unfortunately the elevator lift will only carry approximately a total of
twelve hundred pounds and lifted basically a wire cage into there to get
an elevator that would carry up to 2,500 pounds which is more feasible down
through there which the problem I had with making sure we had the Headroom and
I'm still not sure we have we need 14 inches for a pit underneath that and so
I still got to have the floor cut to see if we got 14 inches underneath the floor
the difference between the two is about 65,000 just for the elevator that's for
the main elevator versus 35,000 for the lift if we did the elevator we're going
to have to have a walkway over there plus the bathrooms we're probably
looking at anywhere from a minimum of roughly 125,000 to accounting the
handicapped bathroom to maybe 150 thousand dollars if we do that then
we're going to have to go ahead and hire an architect for it if we do that and
that's what the council wants to do then we're going to have to do that and we're
looking at probably six months before we able to get it set of documents forward
be able to put out for bids if that's what the council wants to do I think the
council needs to make a decision if we're willing to go either way we're
probably looking at we're probably still looking at $100,000 to one hundred and
fifty hundred and seventy-five thousand dollars for the elevator and okay the
bathroom remodel on mr. Mitchell that at cost range is very helpful in
making going ahead with we have north street sitting there and city is not a
very good landlord when it comes to collecting rents especially on north
street it seems not that you know there was a lot of extenuating circumstances
and i certainly understand them i certainly don't want to repeat them but
north street has some value and i would assume north street if we put it up for
bidding would probably bring in a good hundred thousand at least for that
building with the property in the way it's sitting now who would want to buy
it there's probably a fair number of people would want to buy it anywhere
from allegiance to the hospital or endorse somebody for a home even the
flip it at that price range so considering that that money could go
into expanding the use of this auditorium making it more functional
functionable for the city and the citizens and bring this place back up to
its glory fully occupied and fully used i think deserves
the ability to go forward and yes we should meet all ADA compliance standards
and have that bathroom I'm not I'm not too sure that I understand the twenty
five hundred fifteen hundred twelve hundred pounds lifts but so you can't
bring a ton of merchandise down the elevator at one time you can bring it
down twice keep it under twelve hundred pounds and that even saves more money
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that we ought to go ahead and make the
decision to formally to move to the auditorium and to proceed Isecond THAT
if thats a motion Mr MCCLUNG if this would need to be an
amendment to that but I like the idea of the basement then utilized I really do
and I and I agree with the concept of the lower weight unit would yeah you
make two trips instead of one I have no problem with that I'm good with that too
and I like the idea of eliminating North Street and use those funds dedicate that
to the project I think that's huh so do do we need a
you think it'd be wise to have a motion added to that too or separately to to
offer that North Street for sale and can it be publicly marketed yeah that's a
separate issue that's a separate issue perfectly yeah
okay no I just wanted to say the people that have talked to me are so excited
about us doing this and I think what David suggested and mr. McClung
suggested is I think we should make the motion but the North Street up for sale
and proceed I think saving this building is just a
really fabulous thing a place where the community can do things we can also
attract state CONVENTIONS which we've had to rent places when we've had HDC
conventions we could also now have like the governor's convention the tourism
convention and we would have a place I just think it's a fabulous idea all
right this comes could you clarify hit David's motion from written the note to
commit to moving to the auditorium okay then I'd like to amend that to say that
we would hire an architect to pursue developing the plans
I want to ask the question about that I guess I'm gonna have to second it to ask
the question you can ask a question I think if you don't understand that I'm
taking his amendment so that I can have discussion I would think with the amount
of money that were potentially with the the rough estimate we just got from the
mayor which requires an architect I didn't know why we needed an amendment
to the motion to hire one especially since we're talking to the mayor of /
architect in the first place he's done allowing but he's not allowed
but I don't if I'm to guess that was my only concern Bob I just don't understand
why we needed an architect when we're going to have to get more than anybody
so well my concern is that you can make the motion to move downstairs in the
auditorium and that MOTION can sit there for the next 10 years with the motion to
move Oh HIRING AN architect isn't going to make it move any quicker so we
probably should put a timeframe on it well it still will take six months to
get the trying to tell you're trying to tell A lawyer how
fast SOMETHING we'll go through COURT then I would say hire an architect
within the next two months
mr. mayor do you need counsel to give you authority to hire an architect
MR MCLUNG do you have to have an architect if you get to it with just anything over
a hundred thousand dollars has to have an architect can't just be an engineer
Oh
they're probably a combination that no there's going to be an architect
involved because you got plumbing and some interior work I mean they're couple
every engineers involved in the architecture one's going to be
coordinating an engineer IS NOT GOING TO be able to draw up the ADA bathrooms an
architect we're getting the architect doing anything how puts a reasonable
HIRING an architect well I can put put up proposals and get some requesting on
my way to get that done relatively quick yes SIR MR. MCLUNG I was also thinking that something
that you know I know how this kind of thing goes and been in and the cost goes
up exponentially each day that's delayed you know once once once it's outlined in
indecision just like just like the Public Works building it went from
seventy five thousand to two hundred you know this has an example you know it
just I think we better set up some kind of a ceiling or something and trying to
give us some parameters that's what I'm thinking it so and I want to I want to I
would like to proceed with this but but that's not exactly sure the right
direction well we get I mean I've given you some
rough costs just for the equipment and possible construction you know if I
think once we get the parameters from from a design standpoint we'll have
small FIGURE cost figures at that point in time will be presented to the council
I mean it won't be just going out for bids and saying
the difference between the $70,000 maintenance building and the 200,000 was
the fact that the original building was a poultry processing metal building
right right we're not we're not we're not going to we're not going to try and
recreate the Taj Mahal either I mean that's that's we've got a basic BUILDING
structure yes sir I'm gonna go out on a limb here and ask a question when I I
think it was at the beginning of your term so it would have been my second
term on council and you were you as mayor I came mayor and you were working
on the architectural drawings for the pavilion out at Lake leatherWOOD but I
believe and council made an exception to allow you to to be the architect so I'm
going to go ahead and ask a question I'm making a motion I'm going to ask a
question if this council made an exception and acknowledged you as being
had having the ability to be the architect of this project is is that
legal the council can do that I'm not sure that I would accept that I think I
want to I've talked to another architect about downstairs and I've had him look
at it with me to make sure it was in you're ahead of the game already we're
looking at you know making sure that you know things are going on so they're
based on that can you speed up that timeframe I can find out and I don't
know whether I can speed it up because you know it's like anything else people
are busy this construction is going up and I don't know what everybody's time
schedule is but I can certainly get in contact with Inka saying about hiring an
architect to proceed with this and coming back like the council know where
we are mr. mayor yes sir just someone to ask
something of the fire chief or FIRE MARSHALL KELLY and that is how does the
capacity downstairs that is it as it exists right now do you have it you
recall okay yeah I mean I know it's gonna be for meetings but they have to
be involved in this to some degree I think occupancy yeah so I don't have
that number in front of it we can look that up to find out probably somewhere
around 100-150 I think but just another note on that does the elevator would
have to connect it to the alarm system as well when it's put in would it be
another requirement that not oversight to so keep that in mind that's going to
be a little cost and additional stuff that I think we would be capable of and
I don't know what that a panel it's pretty old too if it's capable of that
so keep that in mind an elevator that's actually adding a third entrance
excellent no elevators not allowed TO BE USED AS A life safety device or access exit
idea yep and I believe probably it's not I think we have enough egress with the
openings it's just the square footage that determines yeah you're already okay
on your occupancy right now that you have plenty for depends on how you set
it up I think you're okay on that
okay we had a motion we were well I have a question because mr. Thomas amended
his amendment by adding within the next two months and I did not hear a second
to that no his amendment went down in flames so does that leave us with mr.
Thomas original motion and to say hiring our architect to develop plans without
the timeframe of within the next two months does it take us back to that I
think that was bones amendment mr. Mitchell wait a minute I'm backing up
into the order of things okay second amendment to well your amendment to your
amendment was to say within the next two months
correct okay and so there was not a second on that by virtue of that fact
that we back up into your original amendment correct to say to hire an
anarchic and architect to develop plans and that did get a second oh now we're
voting on that amendment if I'm understanding correctly
okay that's correct thank you okay so we're voting on the
amendment to hire an architect everybody understand mm-hmm and all those in favor
signify by saying aye any opposed all right so now we're back to the
original motion which is to move to the auditorium okay
all those in favor signify by saying aye any opposed all right then just while
we're on this topic I'd like to make a motion at this point in time that we
start the process for putting North Street up for sale second the point of
order that's in addition to the agenda which can't be done but it has to be
added to the agenda that's too late to the agenda no it's not it can be done
okay yeah I make a motion that we add us that the sale of North Street to the
agenda is a topic second okay in further discussion on amending the agenda to
adding North Street hearing none all those in favor signify by saying aye any
opposed okay now okay so that takes us to item 5
which has been deferred to June 11th meeting number 8 are we going to vote on
selling it then are we going to move out oh it's okay
so you're going to move the north to the end of the agenda story okay sorry to
the end of new business which would make it number 8 okay okay that brings us the
next next item is Rock Street resolution I'll make a motion to assign a number to
the resolution full and you did and read it written for brutal read it for
approval really okay did I hear a second
second discussion at the thomas property owner
affected has been dealing with this several years and has requested that we
put timeline and there further removal from the master plans redacted and take
him out KRISTY isn't this as if he's written mean that it would be effective
immediately
no that's right it says it's been recognized as having been done correct
position and MR.MCCLUNG yeah refresh my memory what is it it's
in the resolution it know where it is ROCK STREET down and magnetic
McKinley wages out after this thank someone to go right in front of Rachel
bricks HOUSE
is this what we needed her or wasn't then we didn't close it
right yeah into the property right and it was on the magic trail masters master
trail list but it was decided to be take it off with the counselors they were
taking in our FORMALLY and so this formally takes it off from the trail to
master list it's on parks trails okay we know what we don't own anymore happens
we didn't know where to begin mr. Thomas I could ask Justin the
question passing this resolution tonight how long
did it take you to get this off of your MAP it will be a Photoshop process the
original data that was created at MAP stand back miss mayor we've got a
horrible bug on our sound system right now
or someone puts our donors yeah he's got it
somebody's phone ringing buzzing
yes ma'am oh I'm sorry oh yeah
years ago the city vacated that one section that was basically the driveway
for the works house at that point the trails plan was at the far end of the
land property and it went and dealt with marble flats there was it was not going
to be touching our private property so I don't understand what this is Terry do
you remember that discussion on the trail versus the street they don't I
don't have an easement across marble plants but no but I mean but it was at
that end of the property barrio Parks has no easement across marble plants
right there's no there's no access to marble FLATS by city street from that
end okay but that's what I'm saying that was the section it was close to the
marble flats it was at that end of the property so I don't understand what this
is do you I do go ahead check that was a different
Street it finally became clear that what was on the TRAILS map was indeed the
BRICKES property oh there okay the ordinance
that section of land it is the section of rock stream that runs in front of the
brick house and that is still on the trails a TRAILS MAP when I know it's
on the map IT GOES with the resolution saying that the council supports the
trails map is were conducting okay so and I can show you the documentation if
you yeah no she's I couldn't I was trying to figure out where it was
because I know that one part in front of the house went up like through the woods
and that's where they were talking about coming down that and the far end so okay
MR. THOMASI just I miss Justin's answer when I asked him how that was
when this buzz came out how long is it going to take you to change the map the
the process itself is as a measure of scanning photoshopping out that section
I don't have the original data and putting it on this is just procedural
this is a council approved master plan and it's not appropriate for us to make EDITS
without a resolution from that's really all we're asking for that section
again it's proposed it's to literally two inches from the word proposed trails
it's not on a trail map it hasn't been on a trail map and just to discuss
there's been some comments about us not listening to some things we've not been
approached about this for some time and then we recommend it to the person
complaining to come make that request perfectly finds again proposed trails
not a trail map not anything on there so that's fine yes we want to run a trail
through there someday that's why it's proposed because we don't have a thing
we're perfectly fine with taking rocks CREEK off the map and not showing that
as a trail and it's described don't four or five different pages as being a part
of your trail I spend it in one page on our master by the way one page two
inches from the word proposed TRAILS you know the additional pages that I have
them at home yes what are your suggestions yeah tell me Robin I'm not
saying it doesn't exist our current master trail plan that keeps being
referenced in this issue it's in one place yeah and again we understand
that's vacated it's not going it's been not an option since I arrived here so
it's not something we've been like yeah we're going to do that it just hasn't
been taken off because it's a procedural issue
by this body myself I'll SEND IT TO YOU perfect
make sure they're not being put out anywhere certainly I mean a good we look
and we were told that we did look forward is the only place that I found
found that MS. KENDRICK section the City Council vacated this property in 2014
why was it not taken off the MAPS THEN I can't answer that question I want some
here until 2016 but okay you were here in 2016 just a moment ago as a council
City Council approved master I DISAGREE I think it was it all action was
appropriately taken four years ago and I do not understand why it remains on the
MAP I can't speak to four years ago but I can say again that the procedure for a
council approved master plan is the council to make a resolution to make
that edit it's not appropriate for me to make that edit we that's we're trying
right now we're dealing with this resolution so any confusion and I agree
doing it but I feel like this is unnecessary this should have been done
for years whether it should or should it we're doing it taken care of I'm hoping
any further questions all right we got a motion and to read this resolution
find a number and read it for passage do we need a second we're okay ah oh yes
miss SCHNIEDER yes miss KENDRICKS yes MR. McClung yes
Mitchell yes mr. Thomas yes okay THE RESOLUTION number will be
a resolution clarifying theROCK STREET is no longer a part of the master plan for
Chris where's the City Council Eureka Springs Arkansas have you been informed
that an issue has arisen AS TO THE status of rocks STREET master plan
for trails and whereas THE CITY OF Eureka Springs recognized the master plan for
trails by resolution six four two on July 14 2014 and vacated an unnamed area
of rock street in ordinance 22 15 passed on July 28 2014 now if they report be
resolved by the City Council of the City OF EUREKA SPRINGS ARKANSAS park beside the rock STREET
is recognized as having been removed from the master plan for trails by
ordinance 22 15 thank you all right our next item under new business is
discussion of being B&B CUP moratorium on
ms Kendricks I thank you a motion to discuss a second
I received a an email from an ally who is the chair of the Planning Commission
indicating that has come to her attention that they're making applicants
coming before the Planning Commission for a B&B cup in the guise of tourist
lodging and she is respectfully requesting that the City Council passed
a six-month moratorium on on B&B cups I back in January ninth 2017 the City
Council passed resolution 700 which was a moratorium on all new cups in r1 and
r2 until June 30th 2017 I gathered that the issues at that time I was very
concerned about the effect of increased B&B B&Bs ON
the availability of affordable housing I don't think that any of these issues
have yet has yet been addressed so I would like to move that we that the City
Council place a moratorium on all new B&B cups in r1 and r2 four until six six
six months from the date of this resolution I'll second that
and then yes MS GREEN when when she gave the timeline in the last moratorium
the Planning Commission worked really hard to come up with code definitions
and changes to make it where the public asked us for no more cps in the
residential area any kind of CUP and the new codes that we will be working on
have made it to where you would have to apply for variance to get one it doesn't
totally take them out but it makes it where really the neighbors are going to
have to approve we've made it instead of a two hundred feet frontage road it's a
200 foot radius that you cannot have any kind of a CUP within those unless yellow
variance and the public has definitely asked for this and what is kind of come
to my attention is that there's still there's that loophole of getting in with
a B&B license really not living there just throwing a renter into what may be
the living quarters or the area and the public is asked that we stop doing this
so I agree with Kristy I think six-month moratorium till we get those quotes
cleaned up would be appropriate
mr. MCCLUNG I just have one question for her before I said anything else who's
who's the public when we were other other B&B owners there are other B&B
owners people that came in and talked to us the people that came and protested
when we remember we had like three of them in 2017 we had three applicants and
it was just a bruja on three of them that people just did not want them but
yet they were approved anyway one was approved that was the one on Washington
Street - were not here's and here's another
question her email she mentioned that they're trying to get permits under
tourist lodging which tourists is no longer allowed anyway what what they're
doing mr. MCCLUNG is let's say I have a property that like maybe a duplex I put
a renter on the top hold on honk that's my manager and then I can start renting
out the bottom the people on the top are just renters they're not REALLY
managers so basically it's just regular renting it out lately yes yes there if
I'm in correctly from wrong they're trying to apply for a B&B right right
but they're really OVRNIGHT lodging its overnight lodging they'll have a
quote-unquote renter saying there's kind of reverse of the way I interpreted her
email then because I interpreted it the other way yeah yeah it wasn't super
clear I mean what she meant because I worked on those cold definitions and
revisions with her okay present discussion it could have a
question for Miss green sure because when we did this before when we were
discussing before and you were on right yes wasn't there just what you said
there was just one little area of town where there actually could possibly be a
new CUP because it was yes but what we've left is there is a variance if
somebody wants to come in and apply in an area of the two
feet they can apply with the variance for CUP and and what we would do is the
Planning Commission could award a variance along with the CUP people and so
this this one that they're afraid of is going to be in a where they needed a
variant I don't I don't think it's quite come understand people coming down and
asking they can do this and you know there was talk of someone building some
stuff to do this and so mr. Mitchell declare something miss green is talking
about with the variance for the two hundred she's talking about the proposed
rules not the current rules that are in place so under the current rules in
place there has been a movement by people into town to grabbing B&B
licenses and there is more activity in that realm than there ever has been
before so just because there's one really active right now does there's
more following that's what we're trying to say but on there grabbing existing
being realizes no no I'm trying to apply well I thought there was only one little
right so we go in under the old code which is opening all of residential
right they were just until we finished working on these codes are asking us to
have a moratorium on C ups so that we can at least YA OR NEA THESE CODES further
discussion all right so got a motion to have a
six-month moratorium on the B&Bs and CUPs and sieepiess nor 1 and r 2 for no
further discussion all those in favor of the motion had stated signify by saying
aye any opposed so moved
all right they bring this up to our new business of selling North Street and I
remember I got A MOTION TO DISCUSS Mitchell yes I'd like to make a motion that we
actively engaged the appropriate process for the sale of the property on Norris
Street probably putting minimum bid in of a hundred thousand dr. second I heard
again sorry mr. MCCLUNG I think we'll have to get in a little
APPRAISAL first I would I don't think we can set our own price I think we do
you mind would you mind taking back here back to my second I make a motion that
we get in pencil on North Street and start the process post that selling the
property second okay further discussion hearing none all those in favor of
getting an appraisal 425 North Street for sale signify by saying aye
all right any opposed that's a move that brings us back to unfinished business
ordinance number 22 66 the second reading get a motion to discuss some
moved second last time we had some figures that were backwards on the
well we're going to cost for the so contained breathing apparatuses and the
generators we've since gotten that corrected and have gotten their correct
prices in there I'm not sure mister where do we need to reread the ordinance
or it would be best if you were to read it in whole and add those changes as
amendments just to break the entire ordinance and then as you go through
mention that those are the places for amendment then both the amendment then
both the owners gave copy of the old ordinance j5d that did look the same
I have one up my truck I think don't even get it I don't have a copy of it
come to me first thank you
okay I appreciate all right so
yeah all those in favor of the witness ordinance 2266 on the second reading
think saying aye okay I make a motion and we read the amended form okay
okay need a second to read the amended form
second question sir yes I have a question
okay as I recall it was it was the figures were not the same there was
two locations for the figures and they were not identical that was what the
problem was I believe right and I think since then I don't remember which that
was right then which wasn't but but I believe that's what it was
okay so do you want to proceed with mr. Leivers recommend it
yeah yeah if you know if you're if you know what the what the amendment needs
to be then yes okay yeah okay all right all those in favor of reading the
ordinance 22 us for second amended ordinance 2366 on second reading signify
by saying aye aye any opposed what is number two 266 as
many an ordinance waiting requirements of competitive bidding for the purpose
of purchasing self-contained breathing apparatus and compressor unit whereas
the city Eureka Springs Fire Department is desiring to purchase 10 Scott
self-contained breathing apparatus inlaid accessories for cost not to
exceed seventy four thousand nine hundred $21.98 as well as one Scott
compressor unit and related accessories for cost not to exceed forty one
thousand five hundred thirty-five dollars and sixteen cents over the next
one month period and whereas the fire chief doesn't this gave the
manufacturers of the required air packs and compressor to determine the one
that's desirable for the city she needs and
whereas equipment compatibility safety and cost efficiency required continued
use of proprietary equipment manufactured by Scott health and safety
with from the dealer emergency vehicle specialists that is EBS a Conway
Arkansas now therefore the ordained by the City Council is a city to have
Eureka Springs Arkansas second one that pursuant to the provisions of section
3.0 4.0 2 of Eureka Springs Municipal Code the council have said city plans
that this be an exception situation in which the procedure for competitive
bidding is being not feasible or practical competitive bidding is hereby
specifically waived and the city fire department is authorized to purchase up
to ten units for self-contained breathing apparatus manufactured by
Scott health and safety from EVs at a cost of not more than seventy four
thousand nine hundred twenty one dollars and eighty eight cents and a compatible
Scott compressor unit related accessories at a maximum cost or 41
thousand five million thirty-five dollars and sixteen cents
purchases shall be completed no later than June 4th 2018 section 2 that all
reduces our resolutions in and conflict her with her hereby
repealed to the extent of such conflict section 3 that each of the provisions of
this organ are several and the decision of any court having jurisdiction as to
the validity of any provision shall not affect remain provision the one that was
read at the previous meeting had the two amounts reversed in the first whereas
the in section one
the fifth line had an amount of six thousand fifty dollars and it needed to
have been seventy 4921 one complete the last figure in that section was the
reverse and is now forty one thousand five hundred thirty five dollars and
sixteen cents and those are the corrections the two figures with and
your leg but this line section one was incorrect because it was per unit and I
guess the custard yeah yeah I'm fine I'm ready to make a motion that we approve
the amendment I think we need to do that first let's just prove the ordinance
tonight you know I think we have to improve the amendment first okay here I
get a motion to approve the amendment I'll second that
any further discussion all those in favor of approving the amendment signify
by saying aye any opposed that's where I'd like to
make a motion that we approve ordinance number 22 66 on the second reading
second
discussion I tagged along to all those in favor signify by saying aye all right
any opposed thanks so much mr. McCLUNG yes mister MAYOR I like to suspend the rules
and read ordinance number 22 66 were third and final reading second by title
only SECOND discussion
yes just imagine yes yes miss green yes mr. Thomas yes yes the ORDINANCE number
is 260 self-contained breathing apparatus and compressor unit well yes
sir I'd like to approve ordinance number 22
66 on its third and final reading second
for the discussion okay hearing none mr. Thomas yes this McClung yes yes yes yes
yes mr. mayor yes sir mr.MCCLUNG I would like to make a
motion that we approve and read you heard the emergency clause ORDINANCE NUMBER
22 66 that as they have a time line of order those within one month of now
which we're almost late I think in a second
and discussion mr. MCCLUNG is right we have a deadline of getting this done by June
4th that's the race to the emergency clause otherwise the price will go up
yes ma'am yes miss Greene yes yes yes yes mr. Mitchell yes
emergency clause section for the due to the need to finalize the purchase no
later than June 4 2018 and for the health welfare and safety of the
citizens of the CITY an emergency is hereby declared to exist in this order
shall take effect upon this passage by each spring the City Council assigned by
the CITY COUNCIL AND SIGNED BY THE EUREKA SPRINGS MAYOR next to them it's the league's opinion
of parks rights motion to discuss so moved second I think I'm not sure if
everybody's got the copy of we finally received clarification and copies from
Municipal League last week from two different attorneys regarding some
similar questions plus a couple ones that I had after reading their their
comments I had additional questions open it up for discussion
yes ma'am you refer that on you see the third paragraph or second paragraph on
the first page you say the validity of the late Leatherwood sales tax has is a
topic that has already has a legal opinion from the Municipal League all I
have ever I don't think I've ever seen anything I think I've just heard from
mr. Weaver that he spoke to them on the phone
it is there such a legal written legal opinion
there is not a written legal opinion at the time they were in a position to give
us an oral opinion and that is what I received comment okay as you may see it
took two months to get answers to these other questions I I understand I would
just simply like to point out that lower on it
apparently that opinion was was issued and when they still apparently they are
still missing the language of the Leatherwood sales tax and so no that was
provided to them at the time they spoke with me okay they say they say they
don't have it so I said I'll turn it on - they do have it they said this is
synopsis and I sent it between the March 15th or May 15 after they received that
I sent him to language on that because a lot of their statements in here are
contingent upon that language such as their opinion under number 3 number 3
seems to indicate that they have not seen it so I would just like to point
that out and I would believe that the reference there is to one of the other
members of the league then who I spoke with but I'm not going to speak for that
he shared it with who when I spoke with him originally so
I'm sorry I feel that the opinion therefore is doesn't address certain
issues I'm sorry would you repeat that I it because of these discrepancies
between what is said in this written legal to pinyin and what you're telling
me I I don't believe that the OPINION believe the opinion is lacking in
addressing that issue
if you would like to put your thoughts and get in writing I would be glad to
forward it on to the Municipal League for their response that's all I can do I
have sent them there the information that they had asked for regarding the
documents I thought their May 22nd clarification and some of those others
was response from that they never said that they still needed additional
information from me or from the city so mr. mcclain apparently if they thought
any different than what they'd already written with information you provided
them they would've sent a follow-up and they did not so apparently what they
what they stated this what they still believe miss tiger okay the whole point
of this whole thing was in regards to Kim Parks work along side of the
community center regardless of the decision of the city not being involved
until certain things were met and basically what they're saying everywhere
in here in regards to that and that was the whole point of this question is
Parks is autonomous they will do as they so need to or want to every single
response it here sits here and says
parks is on their own Council cannot say yea or nay like in regards to the green
house and whatever else would be going on has nothing to do with that typo all
of this has to do with can they make contracts and deal with Community Center
and they are saying these MUNICIPAL League is saying yes they can they're autonomous
mr. Mitchell if you read the Municipal Code you you would know very well that
nobody should even question that they're autonomous in that level absolutely I
have a couple questions in here but I'm more interested in this MS KENDRICKS
motion that this that some of this data is possibly tainted because of the
wording and the interpretation is missing and I know she's not sitting
here as our counsel legal counsel but I think with her background if she has
raised a question and has been invited to put her concerns in writing to be
sent back to the Municipal League that we probably shouldn't be taking any
action per se on this I do have a question of the Lonnie specific to
something but I'm not going to ask him at this point but I am going to make a
statement about this the ultimate authority or the parks commission rests
with the City Council their existence rests with the City Council the ability
to remove a commissioner for cause rests with the City Council and it might be
very interesting for this council to consider dissolving the parks Commission
and moving it to a department under the city like the fire police etc and
letting Justin be the department director that's my comment
KRISTY I I would just like to clarify that the reason this opinion was
obtained has nothing to do with parks doing business with the Community
Foundation it had to do with a statement that I made in council I believe back in
March perhaps about how I found several deficiencies in the parks tax and and in
the way parks the Parks Commission was reporting to City Council and the
failure of the City Council to appropriate the lake Leatherwood tax for
his four purposes so that parks could use it
I find this opinion too to be lacking in addressing the parks tax I also find it
to be lacking in addressing the fact that we apparently don't have an
ordinance that approved the lake Leatherwood master plan upon which the
whole tax hinges so yes I would like to have the opportunity to submit my own
questions to the Municipal League okay which comes I could ask questions for
ms Kendrick is there anything you don't want to deal with municipal LEAGUE directly
I know there's not no reason I've called them a couple of times and they've never
returned my call but other than that I have no problem with dealing with them
directly I mean if you're gonna write up your questions and stuff which I would
be happy to do that and I would I I would like to have that opportunity if
that's certainly okay I will do that miss SCHNIEDER okay I I don't know why all
these things are being all put into one thing other than you contacted upon
various goodies this whole thing is supposed to be in regards to whether
parks has the right to make a contract with the community center that's what
the whole issue is the other stuff is all different issues and they sit on the
bottom of page four and this is from the Municipal League I do not believe that
the City Council has that level of oversight of the parks Commission
importantly the Commission has quote the authority to enter into contracts of
persons firms corporations or organizations for the use of
recreational park buildings or parts thereof unquote Arkansas Code Annotated
fourteen - two six nine - 203 finally the Attorney General has opined that a
parks commission may contract for services facility usage and all person
purchases the Arkansas and so on and so forth it's very clear from them parks
can do what they see fit the city the council whatever cannot say well we
aren't going to allow us to do it so therefore you can't according to them
everywhere through here parks can do they need to do they are autonomous they
are their own boss we started the parks situation oh my god
eons ago for very definite reasons they are now a very very viable financial
part of this city in regards to drawing people and everything else to sit there
and even consider ending it it was one of the most horrific city thoughts I've
ever come across it's like whenever we've had local
people start something brand new in town a really great event and it does super
good three four or five years the city decides well we're going to take it over
and do it right and the whole thing dies this has been happening time after time
after time and all those long times here can sit there and name every single
special event that this has been damaged by parks is doing a great job they are
doing a phenomenal job we do not want to micromanage them we do not want to try
to control them they are the experts we are not mrs Kendrick said you had
YOUR HAND UP and this for right now and going until little there's been several
questions that really haven't been answered yet
I support the director of parks at this point in his leadership that he has
provided he could easily provide that leadership as a department to the mayor
and it will still not affect the ability of parks to be managed appropriately
physically and and astutely for the needs it can easily be a department this
this council has been for a good while now discussing various issues of concern
regarding the chairperson the collusion between parks and the community center
we questioned the ability about the green house because we never really got
a full answer about the financial viability of it and we really never got
an answer to Alderman Thomas's question about why not the school never was that
question answer was the school green house considered what happened why was
it what was going on never got an answer to that
we know they spend seventy five hundred dollars a year the Bear Creek out there
buying the plants but how much is it going to cost to do the green house on
the community center we never had a discussion in the past about the various
other aspects that have taken place with the Parks Commission in regard to the
community center so we had some very valid questions that were raised about
the collusion it's a good work between parks and the community center and they
were very valid and my point is that I believe parks could very easily be a
viable functional and exceed all expectations as a department so
therefore I'm going to go ahead and make the motion that the parks commission be
dissolved in favor of becoming a department of the city with a director
I'll second that all right discussion ms Schneider how much more stupid can a
city be to take a viable entity and screw with it when we made parks
apartment and I was here you weren't most of you weren't some of us were we
went through hell and back to come up with a proper workable unit we had to
get special permission from state to write this up
we were the originators of this perks the whole set up the whole thing them
being autonomous and they were made autonomous he couldn't have people like
you and you and you think I don't want them around my backyard
I got want them here I don't even like trees or any of the other mundane stupid
things that get thrown out there for five million reasons all over the world
this is ridiculous they are bringing in people why do we
need people because that's our only business right now they are the most
viable financial resource that we have and they know what they're doing and
they can do it and do it well because nobody else can sit there and say well
my friends don't like you my friends don't want this I'm responding to my
friends there keeps all of us out of their business and lets them get the job
done did any of you anybody in this room go down to Lake Leatherwood this holiday
weekend Eureka's biggest weekend of the year anybody and what did you see it was
packed my son and his family came down and spent four days down there in one of
the brand-new little teeny tiny cabins it was awesome
my six-year-old granddaughter caught her first fish in LAKE LEATHERWOOD it
was the coolest thing I've ever seen her little face now our any of you going to
be able to sit there and promote handle or do what they have done because we
have had to keep our hands off of them and let them do their job
they know what they're doing we don't all we're doing is supposedly
representing the people by sitting there trying to micromanage and screw with
something that's working is the worst thing and you can do this town much more
on the mr. Mitchell use uses the word collusion and I consider it a
partnership big difference and then the other thing is as far as dissolving the
PARKS Commission it yeah I certainly don't feel that's the right direction to
go either you know it may not be perfect but but it is truly one of the strong
points of the community as follows as far as volunteerism goes it's it's
there's so many people that are involved in parts the commissioners to the trails
people in it it's it's just I think you kill it I think I think you
would kill it I think you would have a probably it uprising in town if he tried
to do it now I am totally against that I just do not believe that would be the
right direction to go mr. mr. HUSES his his abilities are great and he's and
he's good and and and the the confines of these working under now are are great
you know I I think I think we're okay that's my observation mr. Thomas well I
think that the primary concern with with the way parks was operating now is
something that Miki was talking about doing things for friends doing special
things for friends that you don't do for for everybody else in the community
that's the concern that I've heard from from that's my concern and that's
concerned that I've heard from a lot of people in the community so I'm you know
it's not having a Parks Commission doesn't eliminate doing things for your
friends
convenience that what is what is tightening strings through Planning
Commission for CUPs when that position initiated by people in the same business
as well I mean once it you know friends or friends this is a small town and
we're a small community and we're pretty darn tight-knit so you know I think that
instincts mr. Weaver the BEFORE you dissolve a department or a commission
things you need to refer back to what the Municipal League has said in your
synopsis at least briefly that doing so can create a world of problems the
border until you know wanted order what is your point I don't believe I believe
that the city attorney is speaking as a city council member and not in his role
as an attorney I my legal opinion at this point he is getting illegal opinion
and I'm asking you to refer to the legal opinion that was given by the Municipal
League to this council at their request and it tells you very plainly in there
but to interfere with removal of a commission can interfere with contracts
and constitutional issues that need to be addressed before you do said act so
if you want to dissolve the Commission do it right don't do it in a hurry
don't do it at his whim make sure you know what contracts they
have make sure you know what other issues that may lie there that this city
suit because that is what I'm here for as the legal counsel of the city is to
try to protect the city from getting sued as often as possible and part of
what the Municipal League said was make sure you understand before you dissolve
a commission what that means
mr. Mitchell I'm going to ask the second of my motion to rescind it and I'm going
to change it oh yes I will okay I withdraw my motion I make a new motion
that we ask the city attorney to draft up what is necessary that would need to
be done in the process of potentially looking at removing the parks commission
moving into a department of the city with the director second and I want to
finish my discussion with after that
Mickey's emotional argument is very true and I totally understand it but there's
a person sitting right here it's perfectly capable all of those
subcommittees all of those volunteers all those people
will very clearly respond to this director who reports directly to the
mayor who is the administrator of the city everything else is totally in place
the finance department will be looking at the financial issues going through
them Justin will be overseeing relations with the public promoting the trails and
he'll be doing it with subcommittees committees and volunteers nothing takes
away nothing takes away community spirit nothing takes away the operations of the
parks department nothing takes away their incentive to continue to make it
the best part possible it rests the ability with the mayor and the
department head as it should and very easily can happen that City Council will
not be micromanaging it you are wrong alderman Snyder completely because again
the mayor is the administrator with the director so there is a lot of advantage
to streamlining and potentially bringing it in and again it will not and
shouldn't affect the ability of that parks to be
exactly what it has grown to be that's the end of my discussion miss Schneider
so you're saying the city won't be micromanaging what the hell do you call
what you're trying to do right now here in regards to parks and the Community
Center and the City Council that my dear is called micromanaging now just because
they know what to do and they still like Justin and he would know what to do
doesn't mean you or anybody else on any council at any time and keep your super
little fingers out of there let them do their job just because you don't like
something or you are misunderstood doesn't mean you take it out on them and
I can tell you now is a long time the people in this town will revolt if you
try to sit there and cancel their whole thing and I will help lead them mr.
Trump I'm not ready to dissolve parks tonight that would be something I'd want
to work on but I have something I don't understand I haven't understand it
understood it for a few months now how can you be autonomous if somebody can
dissolve you that's I don't understand that I think we still have some some
control over parks I think we still have a summit in and for them to try to work
or this and I think it's possible I think we just put a whole new breath of
fresh air on the Commission Parks Commission tonight and I think that's
possible to change the way some operations are going but what is the
difference between being how can you be autonomous if somebody can dissolve you
it is very much like I would equate it to
having a superior in any business that superior ultimately can fire you but if
they trust you they allow you the way with all to do your job I agree and the
job in this instance of the Commission is to run the partners and unless you
have completely lost confidence as their boss and what to remove them they're
autonomous in that they can do their day to day actions they're able to go in and
make contracts they're able to go in and do certain things ultimately yes the
City Council sets above them one has the right to dissolve a boss in a factory
can go to an underboss and will leave them with their duties if they believe
they're not doing those duties properly but they leave them with the autonomous
ability to function on their day to day work but not like just like say I have
not totally lost confidence in parks I'm not ready to solve it which carry it is
not so simple Parks is not as autonomous is all that your Schneider has latched
on a few words out of this opinion and not read the rest of it for example City
Council has total control over the appropriation of the Lake Leatherwood
tax and as far as I know we have not appropriated it to the Parks Commission
for their use indiscriminately we have control over how that money is spent and
not spent yes maybe the parks can contract with the
Community Foundation but they are going to if that's if they're going to do that
autonomously and independently then they are going to have to report to City
Council as to what actions they are taking
autonomously and independently with the funds that they receive from the or the
profits from their operations as opposed to what they do with the funds that come
from that tax and City Council has total control over that tax within the
boundaries of the within the boundaries that was stated in the passage of the
tax that it be used for LAKE Leatherwood but city council can specify that it be
used for specified purposes within lake Leatherwood and so no parks is not
totally autonomous its autonomous to a certain extent just like an employee but
not fully MR.MCCLUNG I just wanted to say that barks has already agreed to
to submit reports on anything and everything it does to the council
according to what there were guidelines that are out there and you know maybe it
wasn't done in the past but I doubt that a lot of the people that are on parks
now were aware of what their reporting requirements are but once I found out
you know they've agreed to produce it I know that they already do it they have
it you know they're they have to provide an audit so I mean anything you want to
look at I'm sure it's available to you at any time mr. green I'm not ready at
this time to dissolve Parks either I think what mr. Mitchell and miss
Kendrick and even myself I've gotten a lot of concerns about partnering with
private entities and I think that's what has stimulated a lot of this
conversation and why these questions were asked and I agree with what
Christy's saying I think we do have control over the tax and we have control
of what they do with that tax so I just I'm gonna just say I'm not ready
at this time to consider that miss SCHNIEDER there's four people in this room
that were in this town when this whole PARKS thing went through we know what
we had to go through to get this done we know how long it took we know how hard
we had to work with the state and everything else I have never ever ever
used the term total autonomous I have never implied total autonomous I have
said they are autonomous and they are the only thing we have to do with the
park's tax is in making it an official election thing on the ballot they are
the ones who come up with taxes where they need it we discuss it we agree yes
this tax will be going to parks and they will be utilizing whatever just like it
stated in the thing they have to get us to approve it for the BALLOT cuz that's
how it works with elections they do their own thing we do not need to be
telling them how to we do not have to be holding their hands or anything else
that's why we worked it out with the state decades ago to make this a proper
and well-run situation which it is to think about dissolving it is ridiculous
miss Mitchell I'd like the city clerk to read my last
motion please I can read the both of it that's why all the word
that's okay I'll take what you've got and see what it was to draw up these
papers and do what's necessary to dissolve parts and create a department
the attorney to draw which would still have it I'm just clarifying it madam I
say I said I just was clarifying it yes yes you've repeated it multiple times I
got your point you don't need to continue I'm moving on past you because
I'm finished with it so my point behind it keep it up just
keep it going come on yesterday mr. Mitchell please continue both ways it's
too history so my point behind this whole thing is this very clearly the
Commission needs to understand that there is a problem with what's been
going on with parks the Commission and possibly a fair number of people sitting
at the council table council is not necessarily happy with what's been going
on nor with the ability with the Leatherwood tax or other aspects that
have been taken place and it would probably be who've them to take a
serious look at what's going on at this table
and consider making some changes on their own to possibly reinvent
themselves to be more in line with some of the concerns that this body seems to
have expressed and obviously that's for them to do at this point but my motion
very clearly was changed and it wasn't to dissolve them but it was to have the
attorney look at what would be required and I think the attorney should look at
that and see what it is in a warm counsel exactly what that entails
since he brought it up that there is a lot of aspects about that that we would
have to consider and at the same time he's doing that very clearly the
Commission ought to take a good look at themselves their leadership and
everything else ms Kendricks any response to mr. Snyder's comments about
the the like Leatherwood tax I'd like to read from the opinion the Municipal
League opinion says thus the City Council does control the fund that's
referring to - LAKE Leatherwood sales tax but the funds can only be used for
those purposes relating to Leatherwood City Park ultimately to policy
decisions of funding the parks commission is up to the city and can
only be addressed by City Council
MS SCHNIEDER yeah that's exactly what I said it makes the council to get the tax to
take care of parks no we cannot tell them how to write their checks we can
make sure that they've got the funds and is used for Lake Leatherwood that's what
we can do as far is Marin has a problem with hurts I think they love a problem
and have had a problem since January 8 when because of a problem with somebody
else parks got dragged into all of this and
it's ridiculous they have nothing to do with anything but they are being picked
on because they want to go ahead and do their job I'm going to say it one last
time dissolving this is the biggest a mistake
this city could make we did not work on this decades ago to have a landmark
decision something that has been utilized across the country not just in
Carroll County we are known for starting what our parks
is set as so yeah let's go ahead and let involvement dissolved that that's
brilliant
okay further discussion if not madam clerk would you read the motion back
again one more time for a vote as a city attorney to draw up documents and do
what's necessary to dissolve parks and create the department no further
discussion let's have a real coffee but one less like I like them in that motion
to clarify that the attorney is to draw those documents up it'll come back full
review by counsel before any action is taken second
I'm not sure what you're asking an athlete attorney to me well can't take
any action anyway I want to be sure that the motion doesn't read like that we've
already made the decision in any way shape or form to dissolve the council
we're asking the attorney who said that there is a lot into considering before
you dissolve it that we're asking the attorney to to develop our list out or
explain to us in some form or fashion exactly what is involved before we would
ever consider or vote on disbanding the Commission I want to be sure that he is
providing us with the factual information of what is involved before
we would even consider that topic I want to heat I want to hear what that is
because what I'm trying to get to I'm not sure we need the amendment but the
amendment to clarify okay not much since the amendment and if it's the most we
know the City Council can't do anything okay could we just we can't do anything
to the City Council votes on it okay as long as people understand that we're not
we're not dissolving them based on that we're just getting generate motion to
having drops and was all that wait see what takes to dissolve it absolutely yes
ma'am I just I sweat Davidson couldn't we just put it on our agenda as
a discussion as for the info just have that have mr. Weaver bring us the
information we can just essay will be on the agenda when it gets done okay so
does it need a motion then there is there is a motion does it that motion
need to stand ARCIC can that be on the agenda and still achieve what I was
mentioning as soon as mr. Weaver gets it the information if this motion passes
and he develops that information he'll present it to the council for the
councilors review okay so it needs a motion for heating before he can do that
that's what I'm saying right now we need a motion to direct him
to do this okay that's what I wanted to
know thank you but there was an amendment in
a second I need a check are you withdrawing your amendment or
bleeding he disappear heceta okay then I rescind my second office I'm aware okay
so we're back to the original motion what yes ma'am just to clarify if I
wrote yes to have this done it's it's basically it's not a done deal it's
nothing it's just going to be brought here for us to discuss
man yes sir the way I take this and and so maybe we need better clarification if
this is not what is intended as you're authorizing me to start spending money
to figure out what it takes if you guys decide to vote in the future and to
prepare the documents and the procedure that you would go through in order to
destroy the Commission and place it back as a department heads are fund your
choice of words destroy to be almost interesting i am i fine going to be
granted right I'm gonna okay mr. man we got it we got a motion all those in
favor from the questions about the saying aye any opposed
all right so back to the original motion a roll call vote between the motion
just go I've got enough Sun worth of what the motion is do a three motion
reread yes yes we we read motion one more time a motion to ask the city
attorney to draw up the necessary and do it I'm not sure what that trace was and
do what's necessary to dissolve parks and create a department okay thank you
that's the motion mr. Mitchell
not exactly no way we call the question and approve that let's go yeah all right
roll call vote mr. Thomas no miss Greene no yes
nope mr. Mitchell yes Aaron motion fails
all right we go on to your next order of business
like what before we move on if miss Kendrick is going to supply questions to
the Municipal League I don't want to have an input on what her questions are
but as the chief legal counsel the city I would like to submit a copy of those
to me so if I'm questioned by the Municipal League I will know what I'm
responding to okay I'm sorry I'm sure you'd like a copy of your request
requires pre-approval privileges question not be what they are a kind of
thing he he dare to yeah that's it I want to talk yeah all right our last
item of business is the audit and audit data from the community center
foundation when available and talking with miss Murphy her accountant has out
of town and they are trying to get the schedule
probably for the last meeting in June and he will present to the council at
that point so that's all I know on that
brings us to an agenda setting Miss Snyder do we need to add this
Buzzard thing to the agenda is that something you do this one
well that's I mean for the next meeting well maybe when weakens lest we see if
you want to hedge it add it to the next meeting I've got something entirely we
have we have bought this bird for a long time well I know that's right or the
council can do anything I didn't know if he wanted to reiterate that at the next
meeting I'll reiterate we're still trying to see what we could do well this
was asking if he was going to add it or finding needed to I can bring it up okay
thank you mr. MCCLUNG yes I would like to add for not the next meeting but the
second meeting in June I would like to projected schedule of sewer and water
repairs I'm it's time to get moving with this stuff I'll second catch anybody
else all right thanks for comments mr. Mitchell yes I'm
going to make several comments back to something that was said if the public
comments about being debt-free it wasn't just the mayor and the Director of
Finance that wanted the city to achieve a debt-free status I'm not mistaken I
think it was unanimous if the City Council set here and agreed to that
concept so we all share in the hope the desire and by taking action that this
city would move towards a less indebtedness than it has ever probably
had in its past looking back and it wasn't just done so we could eliminate a
sec Aude it by any means that was brought up as something that could
happen but it was brought up on the basis that we wanted
be debt-free we wanted to turn that money into a huge amount of money that
would then be plowed back into the infrastructure and if people will go
back and take a look at that council meeting and that particular topic we
very clearly discussed that the I and I funds are not really going to be used in
reducing this indented 'no sand they are available now for infrastructure changes
and work it is not look there is not going to be money to repair stuff it's
going to be that basic just what mr. MCCLUNG said by adding it
we need a schedule for some of the work now this council is the ones that push
to get the equipment so we could start identifying water leaks it was this
council that put in or the council before this I believe it was actually
that put in the issue of changing out the water meters when we were told that
that was the major source of the leaks which obviously we have found out is not
the case but we went ahead did it anyway which was great because we needed to
change those water meters but obviously that wasn't the problem now there's been
leaks identified up at the top of planter Hill and we're into the major
tourist season so guess what that's not going to get repaired
so mr. McClung is right this council is going to have to take a very active and
stronger approach in the repairs and it's not because we don't have the money
to be doing some of them we do and if the problem comes up that we don't have
enough employees and our the ability to handle it in public works then we
certainly should look at the option of contracting it out because we certainly
looked at that for the water meters and we're convinced it wasn't necessary and
then it took how many years and I'm not too sure we're still to a hundred
percent so debt free is a big deal and as far as bringing up a parking deck you
want to spend a whole bunch of the city's money for a parking deck it's not
going to be a five viable financial office up option
I agree parking is a problem by building a parking deck that has been explored in
the past multiple times doesn't create enough spaces to be financially viable
so some of those discussions while they sound altruistic and sound pretty good
on a campaign platform they're not necessarily viable that's all I have to
say it's great I'm gonna get her a lot of what mr. Mitchell just said when I
voted for the amur ization my thoughts were kind of what he was saying but it
was for a huge chunk of money a few years up the road not to band-aid things
like that's what we're doing constantly but to where we can start the projects
that really need to be started and have the money to start them and nothing is
ever perfect but I think that was an incredibly good idea of the council they
did it before I was here and I applaud them for doing that
mr. ironically I was playing and talking about parks tonight and the great
weekend that my son and daughter my two grandkids my husband and I and my dog
all enjoyed on Lake Leatherwood when I moved here March 1st of 44 of 74 we
lived we lived on that original bridge right there at leather with at the old
bridge okay and there was strictly a pavilion and
three or four fire pits what they have done now with Lake Leatherwood has been
phenomenal there was a little teeny fish big thingy that was open sometimes other
than that we stayed in my son stayed in one of their new little camping cabins
I believe it's being known as like a permanent teepee something like that you
know of rainproof TP better than what you had they are so
cute 3d bitty little but are you going to do a sleep because you're at the park
if you're playing you're walking around you're playing with your kids you're
doing all kinds of stuff are you gonna do they're asleep you've got a beautiful
huge deck that's been put together beautifully everything out there was
totally awesome the kids had a super great time my son
always brings his family to Lake Leatherwood because that's pretty much
where he was raised was Lake Leatherwood they all loved it I want to see it keep
going I can't believe how much it's grown and changed it's gone from one
pavilion to I don't know how many cabins and showers and this and that and it's
like oh my god this place is great you need to take time to go out there and
have a picnic if you do nothing else take your stuff go down to a grill make
your steaks your burgers whatever and just sit back and relax and enjoy mother
nature because that's what the parks are there for thank you
Richard cow I just like to say congratulations to our newest Parks
Commissioner came into the room
we voted you in case you didn't have that and thank you for willingness to
serve I would just like to say that I believe the Parks Commission is
undergoing a crisis of confidence when to city council persons are prepared to
basically implode the Commission as the city attorney put it I think that they
really need to consider their responsibilities to the City Council and
the the and they also need to respect the power that the City Council does
have over the Parks Commission and I hope that they take all of this to heart
and start considering all of that I just would like to concur with mr. Mitchell
on the indebtedness in that the idea of getting that free also enables us to go
back and debt because there are some seward areas there's a lot of things
that that that that we can do if we can go back into debt it's if it's I mean
you're naive to think that that the city will not be in debt because we will I
mean there's so much to do but it enables us to get to where we can do
that again we're not the position to borrow money now and so being that's
that was that was my foundation for it because it enables us to to improve ooh
improve our borrowing position tremendously right which right now with
it we haven't got it I agree that as far as the Securities Exchange Commission
I've never heard of them yet going in a and pulling the plug on anybody and I've
always been a proponent as long as you pay your bills they're not ever gonna
say a word but you know that but that was never my concern on any of this
anyway so you know I'm I'm pleased with the direction we're taking there I think
it's it's a solid you know we're going to make mistakes but it's it's it's the
right way to go it's proactive and and and I and I believe in parks and I'm
just gonna leave it at that
so his comments goes we've got some activities coming up this coming month
starting with this next week on May 30th we got the Mayfest closing dinner from 3
to 9 p.m. which will be on Center Street from beach setting up a little area
there right around the DEVITOS area then on the 31st through the third will be
mustang weekend it's going to be all day and throughout the weekend starting out
at EUREKA INN AND in the Pine Mountain Village the MUSTANG PARADE will be on
Saturday the second starting at 4 p.m. and starting out at pine mountain
village and then go around the upper loop and back down Spring Street and
back into Pine then mountain and then on the second also that evening will be
drumming in the park at the basin park and on the 8th and 9th it's a fiber folk
art conference which will be outfit into the Ozarks all day up there and then on
the 9th will be the second Saturday gallery stro 6 to 9 p.m. on downtown
galleries and I also want the citizens to know that on the 4th we will be
starting the Flint Street tunnel construction city of EUREKA Springs will
start the repairs rate to Flint 3 beginning on June 4th the intersection
of Flint Jackson Flint and North Maine will be closed for the duration of this
project we will be maintaining one lane traffic between North Maine and Flint
first Street and Armstrong we're going to have a project it's completed in 30
days so if you got any questions or comments call the Public Works to 5 3
9600 so we're finally getting that job done unfortunately we couldn't get it
when we started for a lot of different reasons usually most of its government
red tape but we finally got it in and are going with it so the motion to
adjourn second on favor okay so much thank y'all
so we're going to be a one lane traffic
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